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Cultural differences Scotland and England

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CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 15:14

So surprised to see on a recent thread that in England secondary school pupils are often not allowed out of school for lunch until 6th form, which Google tells me means 16-18. I'm gobsmacked. I've never heard of anything like this in Scotland and I've lived all over the country (grew up in Glasgow and moved around in adulthood)

I also recently discovered that English school pupils can't leave education at 16. They have to stay in education til 18 unless they have an apprenticeship.

Got me thinking about cultural differences between the countries that I've maybe been oblivious all this time. Any others?

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Maireas · 11/02/2024 16:50

SinnerBoy · 11/02/2024 16:50

Tablet.

That is all.

Food of The Gods

123dogdog · 11/02/2024 16:52

I left secondary school 2013. My school had no uniform till after I left, it started the year I left. Pupils are still allowed out at lunch, as the local shops are heaving at lunch. My primary school, and the other two in my town have no big fence. My old primary school still has the same waist high fence along the road edge, with an opening at one corner at the path. There’s no fence on the two sides that border a path.

as for religion, central belt is much more religious, particularly Glasgow, than say the north east. Also i feel like the Church of Scotland is Presbyterian, whereas Church of England is a bit different. Also the free church in the highlands in particular, is a bit well different.

AutumnFroglets · 11/02/2024 16:52

Juice = concentrate or freshly squeezed fruit juice, ie Tropicana
Squash = Something you add a lot of water to, ie Robinsons
Cordial = Something you still add a lot of water to but is healthier, more expensive and what Ribena used to be in the 70s. Probably Lime Cordial is nearest now as Ribena has gone downhill and "squash like".

What is the backstory to messages/grocery. Was it a way to confuse the Germans during the war, or just the English?

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Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 16:53

Walking home from school too. I’m in Scotland and after P1 (so P2 onwards) the kids are just let out at home time and you can be there to get them or they can walk
home themselves or with siblings or friends. It’s up to you. The schools don’t make rules on letting the kids leave or walk home from a specific age. I keep seeing on here that kids in England aren’t allowed to leave without a parent until they get to P4/P5 age at least.

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 16:53

SinnerBoy · 11/02/2024 16:50

Tablet.

That is all.

😁

The grittier the better in my book

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PossumintheHouse · 11/02/2024 16:54

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 16:53

Walking home from school too. I’m in Scotland and after P1 (so P2 onwards) the kids are just let out at home time and you can be there to get them or they can walk
home themselves or with siblings or friends. It’s up to you. The schools don’t make rules on letting the kids leave or walk home from a specific age. I keep seeing on here that kids in England aren’t allowed to leave without a parent until they get to P4/P5 age at least.

Yes. And God help you if you want to get a bus in Edinburgh between 3.30pm and 4.30pm. School kids packed on them like sardines.

SinnerBoy · 11/02/2024 16:59

The grittier the better in my book

I can't do sweet stuff these days, but Tunnocks Tea Cakes, obviously. They're widely available down here; we have two Ukrainian ladies with us and on a day out, I got them to try some.

They seemed to enjoy them.

Mothew · 11/02/2024 17:00

bibbidiblobidyboo · 11/02/2024 16:37

@SummerDays2020
A buttery is the most delicious but unhealthy bakery product. Essentially lard, flour and salt. Like a flat round, stodgy croissant. That makes it sound awful but it is delicious and difficult to describe.
Best warm with butter and jam in my opinion!

I haven't had a buttery (or rowie as my Dad called them - or Aberdeen roll as my Mum called them Grin) for years and I want one now! But I live in England now so I'll just have to wait until the next visit home.

I cannot get decent morning rolls here either (your 'Scottish rolls' are not the same, Tesco)

SiobhanSharpe · 11/02/2024 17:02

InsidiousRasperry · 11/02/2024 16:42

They aren’t like a lardy cake at all really! I wouldn’t know how to describe them so have attached pics 🤣

I'd still eat them...😆

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 17:04

Mothew · 11/02/2024 17:00

I haven't had a buttery (or rowie as my Dad called them - or Aberdeen roll as my Mum called them Grin) for years and I want one now! But I live in England now so I'll just have to wait until the next visit home.

I cannot get decent morning rolls here either (your 'Scottish rolls' are not the same, Tesco)

Omg, this reminds me of my mate in high school. We were about 14, and we had the paper round and the milk round as usual but also a little corner shop where everyone would go for their crispy rolls at 6am, it was really popular and busy… so my friend started a roll round, sorted out the supplier to deliver to his house and undercut their price by 10p a roll! And off he went delivering rolls on people’s doorsteps at 5am. A good crispy Scottish roll!

PilatesPeach · 11/02/2024 17:05

My Scottish friend went to a Chinese takeaway in England and ordered Chicken Curry and half and half - told me in Scotland half and half was half chips and half rice in the same foil container whereas in England, they had to order a portion of chips and a separate one of rice as they wanted some of each.

x2boys · 11/02/2024 17:06

weebarra · 11/02/2024 16:45

That's another one - I know they're not in all areas of England, but we don't have grammar schools. Also not SATS or 11+.
Doesn't mean out education system isn't awful though.
I'm a careers adviser and I'm really proud of Scotlands careers service.
Professionally qualified careers advisers available to everyone of all ages for free.
Impartial advice for pupils in every state school in the country.

We don't have Grammar schools in the vast majority of England either despite what mumsnet would lead up to beleive ,most of them closed in the 70,s

Mrsjayy · 11/02/2024 17:07

Chinese takeaway i use doesn't do 50/50 I'd love that 😋

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 17:07

@x2boys

We don't have Grammar schools in the vast majority of England either despite what mumsnet would lead up to beleive ,most of them closed in the 70,s

😲 I didn't know this!

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PilatesPeach · 11/02/2024 17:09

@Mrsjayy They live in North Lanarkshire and said they definitely can get half and half locally - I think it is similar for example to some pubs eg Wetherspoon where you can get lasagne with chips and garlic bread - a carb fest!

x2boys · 11/02/2024 17:10

PilatesPeach · 11/02/2024 17:05

My Scottish friend went to a Chinese takeaway in England and ordered Chicken Curry and half and half - told me in Scotland half and half was half chips and half rice in the same foil container whereas in England, they had to order a portion of chips and a separate one of rice as they wanted some of each.

Whenever I ask for half rice half chips II get . them in the same container ,she must has gone to.a strange takeaway.

Snowsp · 11/02/2024 17:10

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 16:09

Thank you. That's the legalities, but culturally I don't know anyone who thinks it's ok to drink and drive.

So you don't know anyone who'd have a small beer or wine with lunch then drive? I'm not a big drinker at all and this might be all I drink. But I think this is totally normal and real common.

That's what people are talking about, not drinking loads and driving.

Seymour5 · 11/02/2024 17:10

Tablet, very sweet, a rare treat when I was a kid in Scotland. I’ve been in the North of England for 2/3 of my life, 50 years, and I still say ‘the back of’ to my family. Messages, I stopped saying that a long time ago. I had sandshoes as a child, my kids in England in the 80s, had pumps. Fizzy drinks were called lemonade. Flavours or plain. Here, it’s pop.

I can buy morning rolls at a local bakery, and we always have homemade soup in the winter. The fish suppers in Scotland take a lot of beating, and I’ve never seen white pudding (which I used to enjoy) in a chippy here.

x2boys · 11/02/2024 17:14

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 17:07

@x2boys

We don't have Grammar schools in the vast majority of England either despite what mumsnet would lead up to beleive ,most of them closed in the 70,s

😲 I didn't know this!

Yeah you read mumsnet you would think they are on every corner ,I think there is something like 167 in the whole of the UK with a lot being in northern Ireland
Most kids however go to comprehensive, s

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 17:14

PilatesPeach · 11/02/2024 17:09

@Mrsjayy They live in North Lanarkshire and said they definitely can get half and half locally - I think it is similar for example to some pubs eg Wetherspoon where you can get lasagne with chips and garlic bread - a carb fest!

I’m south Lanarkshire and have never known a Chinese to do half chips half rice (but I’ve never had chips from a Chinese so maybe I’ve skipped over it on the menu).

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:15

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 15:55

No square sausage?! <faints>

Or potato scones, or red kola or plain bread or rowan glen crumble yogurts

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:17

English don't say big light.
Also outwith isn't a word in England.

helpfulperson · 11/02/2024 17:19

handing over of children to adults is normally only P1, sometimes P2 and specific children. Otherwise the expectation is that if your grown up isn't there you go back into reception or maybe walk home if you live near. I think in general children have a lot more freedom but also more expectation of them being capable of following rules and being sensible when it matters such as not leaving school during the day if they aren't supposed to.

x2boys · 11/02/2024 17:19

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:17

English don't say big light.
Also outwith isn't a word in England.

They do.in Bolton ,have you never watched Peter kay?😂

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:21

x2boys · 11/02/2024 17:19

They do.in Bolton ,have you never watched Peter kay?😂

Oh do they? I am a bit more south and my friends hadn't heard it so assumed it was Scottish.