Cultural differences Scotland and England

[CauleyMacGlochlin]

So surprised to see on a recent thread that in England secondary school pupils are often not allowed out of school for lunch until 6th form, which Google tells me means 16-18. I'm gobsmacked. I've never heard of anything like this in Scotland and I've lived all over the country (grew up in Glasgow and moved around in adulthood)

I also recently discovered that English school pupils can't leave education at 16. They have to stay in education til 18 unless they have an apprenticeship.

Got me thinking about cultural differences between the countries that I've maybe been oblivious all this time. Any others?

It's not easy. Think of it like History, but covering the past 10-15 years only: analysis of world events/ politics. Even at National 5 level it's not easy at all.

Ah, I see - our 6th formers have free periods too. But those younger don't.

Yes, this is far more comprehensive.

At Higher level last year DS covered: UK political system; poverty UK/ International; Ukraine; Independence movement.

I only done modern studied in 1st and 2nd year. I then went on to do geography at standard grade. My teacher wore a big black coat like a cloak and actually looked like a vampire lol.

Can't remember his name unfortunately. I wanna say Mr hodges but think that's wrong.

Oh bollocks. DC1 found history really easy as there seemed to be a bit of a script to follow and if you knew what you were doing then jt seemed simple enough. DC2 was insistent though.

@Puffalicious out of interest, how was the independence movement taught? Was their a bias towards either side being on the right side? I studied history and there was a definate slant on what i was taught.

I finished HS in 2006. Modern studies wasnt an option for me at school in east lothian but younger siblings studied it so i must have just missed it.

It does sound similar to General studies but I never studied it myself. I don't know if the 'not a proper subject' was fair or if the English version was just a bit rubbish!

My Scottish friend calls her grandfather papa.

I don’t think it’s the same as general studies, just asked DH about general studies and he described it as ”a waste of fucking time where you get something for the stuff you are doing anyway”

How irritating! I'm fascinated with other accents but well aware I have an accent too!

We can’t be the same age as they definitely weren’t a teacher when I was there. I can only remember a woman geography teacher but she could’ve also passed for a vampire weirdly!

Maybe in one or two towns.

Ah no sorry I went to hamilton grammar. I only went to Larkhall academy for 1st year and half of 2nd year. I remember a young geography(?) Teacher at LA that all the boys tried to sit near the front to be near! I'm 39.

I butter the flat side and add cheese

How do you say "cooperative"?
If it is the shop, we would say The copay!

Also @MirandaPr1estly if you ever remember a Mr Black in science I went to school with his son. And a Mr Hynds in tech(?) I personally knew him.

I have my breakfast, dinner and tea. Not sure if that is a Scottish thing or a working class thing though.

Ah- my ex had a lot of family in Liverpool, and they used to call rolls barms. The Liverpool family were always showed when the Glasgow family were young and said they needed to go for a pee as they thought it was really rude!

Another different - spicy onions!! Absolutely essential snack here from an Indian, with an order of poppadums. Was in an Indian in brick lane in London and was very disappointed with what was placed on our table as a starter, it was basically raw onion!' 🧅

They're not just in libraries and public buildings though. Lots of cafes, pub toilets etc have free sanitary products available.

Breakfast, lunch and dinner here - so maybe a class thing?

YY to the buttery being delicious. We were introduced to them when we moved to the NE of Scotland when we moved there from the SE England, I couldn’t believe they weren’t available elsewhere in the UK.

Breakfast lunch and dinner here as well. But the people who gave us our school lunches were called dinner ladies. Rather strange.

For those of you missing square sausage, haggis, butteries, tattie scones etc. there is a https://macdonaldbutchers.co.uk/ butchers in Dundee that delivers all these things (and more) throughout Scotland and England. I’ve only ordered from them once (last month) but everything was excellent. My only slight complaint is that they offer next day delivery to England but it’s an extra day to Inverness!

@GrandTheftWalrus Ah right, I’m 30. Mr Black def rings a bell but not Mr Hynds. Saying that, I blocked most of Tech from my memory cos I hated it so much, and the teacher I had in first and second year should’ve been on a register!

That's a high tea you're describing

They are popular and not just on a Sunday

Na if you're 30 then Mr hynds left before then. He went to duncanrigg in EK. Was Mr Wigg still there? He was a prick.