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Cultural differences Scotland and England

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CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 15:14

So surprised to see on a recent thread that in England secondary school pupils are often not allowed out of school for lunch until 6th form, which Google tells me means 16-18. I'm gobsmacked. I've never heard of anything like this in Scotland and I've lived all over the country (grew up in Glasgow and moved around in adulthood)

I also recently discovered that English school pupils can't leave education at 16. They have to stay in education til 18 unless they have an apprenticeship.

Got me thinking about cultural differences between the countries that I've maybe been oblivious all this time. Any others?

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Doublenoogahsilvousplait · 11/02/2024 21:56

@Fr7fr6

My dad would say gutties, I would say sannies or sand shoes.

Both born and bred Glaswegian, but obviously different generations.

weebarra · 11/02/2024 21:56

Far does he bide eh? Husband from Angus.

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 21:57

Where I grew up, old people called the Co-op “the Co-operative”, none of the young’uns would.

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Tarkan · 11/02/2024 21:59

Where I am the Co-op used to be called the "Co-opy" but pronounced like cope-y rather than co-op-y. When I was 11 my friend's mum asked if I wanted to go to the disco with them and I was SO confused when we just went to the Co-op. 😁

Adding a Y/IE to the end of words seems to be really common here. The pond is the pondie, a grassy area near where my parents live is the "farmy" (I assume it was farmland at one time), there's a nature walk through a valley that's called the "dammy" because there was a stone dam type thing there and so on. Men and women being mannies and wifies but I know that one isn't just a local thing.

YouAndMeAndThem · 11/02/2024 21:59

In the NE of Scotland we have blackenings before a wedding where the Bride and Groom get kidnapped the weekend before the wedding and taken to a prominent place in their local town and get all manner of disgusting food thrown all over them!!!! If any of their friends have a trailer they'll then get paraded through the town. It's wild!

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:00

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 20:34

My DD has driving lessons in her free periods.

Is she not in 6th form (16+) to be driving?

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 22:00

I shared a flat in English woman in Aberdeen. She was very taken aback when a random
bloke casually referred to her as “fit”. She came back and told us all about it. Awkward.

rc22 · 11/02/2024 22:00

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:17

English don't say big light.
Also outwith isn't a word in England.

I'm in Yorkshire and have always referred to the main ceiling light in a room as the 'big light'.

Puffalicious · 11/02/2024 22:01

Fr7fr6 · 11/02/2024 21:53

Is this regional. I've lived in Scotland my entire life and never heard someone refer to trainers as gutties.

My rather posh ex DH from Lenzie says gutties, as does DP from Lanarkshire. I have always said trainers.

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 22:01

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:00

Is she not in 6th form (16+) to be driving?

Yes, she’s in S6. She’s 17.

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 22:03

Puffalicious · 11/02/2024 22:01

My rather posh ex DH from Lenzie says gutties, as does DP from Lanarkshire. I have always said trainers.

Me too. My English friend at primary school used to call them “pumps” and I would cringe myself inside out.

Scottishskifun · 11/02/2024 22:04

YouAndMeAndThem · 11/02/2024 21:59

In the NE of Scotland we have blackenings before a wedding where the Bride and Groom get kidnapped the weekend before the wedding and taken to a prominent place in their local town and get all manner of disgusting food thrown all over them!!!! If any of their friends have a trailer they'll then get paraded through the town. It's wild!

😂 my friend when I said about getting married said yes will sort your blackening out! I don't think I told her my plans for a good 3 months in fear of being "kidnapped" and it happening and we had a lot of weekends away!

Puffalicious · 11/02/2024 22:04

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 22:03

Me too. My English friend at primary school used to call them “pumps” and I would cringe myself inside out.

Yes, because pumps are farts where I come from (fart was a rude/ common word 🤣).

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:05

weebarra · 11/02/2024 20:42

There are either non-denominational schools or catholic schools.
I've only lived in the central belt, but DS1 and 2's high school is a shared campus with the local Catholic school.
I'm not really sure how they differ, I work in education and go into a lot of schools but all I know is that they tend to have a crucifix in the lobby and the bishop has to approve SLT appointments.

My DD goes to a RC school here in SE England. They get extra funding and have better facilities and also better support for SEN, which was why I chose it. I don't actually agree with Church schools and Grammar schools it just means the Comprehensives are rubbish.

Puffalicious · 11/02/2024 22:05

If you live with someone but aren't married, they are called your 'bidey-in' in Lanarkshire. My colleague referred to my DP as my 'bidey-in' when we first moved in together.

YouAndMeAndThem · 11/02/2024 22:06

Tarkan · 11/02/2024 21:59

Where I am the Co-op used to be called the "Co-opy" but pronounced like cope-y rather than co-op-y. When I was 11 my friend's mum asked if I wanted to go to the disco with them and I was SO confused when we just went to the Co-op. 😁

Adding a Y/IE to the end of words seems to be really common here. The pond is the pondie, a grassy area near where my parents live is the "farmy" (I assume it was farmland at one time), there's a nature walk through a valley that's called the "dammy" because there was a stone dam type thing there and so on. Men and women being mannies and wifies but I know that one isn't just a local thing.

Yes we always say cope-y in NE Scotland but my DH from central belt didn't. I also call kids bairns and say auld mannies and wifies too.

Gagaandgag · 11/02/2024 22:06

We make a lot of soup, we currently live in the midlands. Always had a soft spot for Scotland though

Notsuretoputit · 11/02/2024 22:08

RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/02/2024 21:16

1970s born child of Newcastle Upon Tyne here and we also called it Nugget.

We probably have a lot more in common up here (phrases and traditions) with the Scots than we do with England. Certainly most of the stuff that's been mentioned already.

And I've just placed an order for some fruit pudding, Ayrshire bacon, potato scones and square sausage, thanks to this thread being a timely reminder that I needed to stock up.

Oh, and M&S up here sell Scottish plain

I know what you mean, but as another child of Newcastle I’d say that we are England and what we do here is every bit as English as the South. A few things mentioned on this thread are more class differences than Scottish/English differences.

Macaroni46 · 11/02/2024 22:11

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2024 17:17

English don't say big light.
Also outwith isn't a word in England.

We do say big light

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:12

Jellycatspyjamas · 11/02/2024 20:51

What about the SEN kids?

SEN kids will still usually make their way to and from school, transportation is only provided if they have been assigned a place in the school to meet their specific need or they live 3+ miles away from the school. If they needed to remain in school due to particular vulnerability it would be written into their IEP, which might include the requirement to stay on school grounds, access to a support base or language and communication unit.

I don’t know any high school where I am that doesn’t allow kids to leave during the school day outside of a plan for particular kids.

My autistic DD is not able yet at 11 to travel to school alone and she doesn't yet have an EHCP. She'd be gutted if all her friends were allowed to leave school at lunch and she had to stay back on her own. So I'm glad ours stay at school. Do they not have clubs at lunchtime in Scottish schools?

Dara99 · 11/02/2024 22:13

I've lived in Scotland and now live in England (I'm not from the UK). I love both. In Scotland they seem to have much stronger traditions (ceilidh's at weddings, burns night, bagpipes etc etc). We do have traditions in England of course but they don't seem to run as deep. I did experience a huge amount of racism (or ignorance I suppose) in Scotland as a black woman. A huge amount actually. It is more subtle in England and I experience it far less.

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:16

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2024 20:56

Stayed in a hotel in Scotland. The restaurant meal on Sunday was called Sunday tea. Fair enough. It was toast and jam first followed by huge Sunday roast followed by a 3 tiered cake stand filled with cakes,scones and sandwiches. If was obviously a big thing because there were big family groups gathering together. Loved it actually but couldn't eat anything like all of it.

So a cross between afternoon tea and Sunday lunch. Not sure how you are meant to eat all that?! Most people struggle with one or the other! 😂

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:19

GrandTheftWalrus · 11/02/2024 20:59

When leaving a house you slap your knees and say "right"

We do that in England too! In fact anytime you decide to get on with something! 😂

Whiskyfromsmallglasses · 11/02/2024 22:23

@Ringpeace it's not a skirt. Good try though 👏

SummerDays2020 · 11/02/2024 22:23

purpletrees16 · 11/02/2024 21:02

Born/Grew up in Scotland lived in England since uni (pre fees changing so it was pretty equivalent):

  • Tea/dinner time. I grew up with it being 6-6.30pm & down here it’s 730 to 8pm (for adults)
  • lack of oat products: sweet triangle oatcakes (not just nairns), oats in different levels of ground like pinhead to make skirlie. It’s just meal or rolled. You can import them though 😂
  • compared to the exact city I grew up in & return to, people embrace colourful coats and outerwear more here. Perhaps as they wear them less.
  • not needing to own a summer coat!
  • People air their houses less when cold though that might have been a symptom of the granite Victorian stock requiring it to not grow mould
  • No ceilidhs at weddings (which is obvious) but there is a bit of time in English weddings where the band/dj starts and no one dances (normally after the bride/groom) as everyone is super awkward or not quite drunk enough to awkwardly shuffle around yet- too conscious they have arms. Ceilidhs are getting dragged up at 7pm and thrown around.
  • Fish and chips - no skin in Scotland

We'd have dinner 7.30-8 when going out but 6-7 at home. A summer coat?! 🤯