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Too self aware I've completely withdrawn from, well, everything?!

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poppyfiend · 05/02/2024 10:05

I feel like I’m almost too self aware, and it’s made me withdraw so much that I now feel like I don’t really have a personality, that I struggle to form my own thoughts and opinions, that I don’t really know how to act around people. I find so many things cringey, embarrassing, pointless. I feel like I see through so many things. In the grand scheme of things in life, how minuscule we are, how minuscule and small my life is, it makes everything feel pointless. I definitely struggle with worry and anxiety but it seems bigger than that, it seems like I’ve completely lost myself and am not a complete person anymore. I am a mum of two small kids, which I know will have an impact, but there’s a lot more to it than that and the feeling like I don’t know who I am, finding things pointless and feeling devoid of personality spans back many, many years. I tried NHS counselling and unfortunately didn’t find it helpful, I can’t afford private but have started doing some self guided CBT. I’m trying to stop looking at things so cynical and instead appreciating the things I have rather than trivialising them. I have started to think perhaps opening my mind to more spirituality, not religion, but affirmations, meditation, crystals etc could possibly give me an outlet. I’m 29 years old and still feel like an insecure teenager, I want to feel like a confident, self assured women. Has anyone sort of, I know it’s quite specific, but has anyone sort of felt similar in some aspects? What did you do, what worked?

OP posts:
rio2 · 05/02/2024 10:07

Hi watching as i dont have any suggestions but feel exactly the same ! I have tried volunteering with groups and do get some enjoyment out of helping others

poppyfiend · 05/02/2024 10:41

I'm sorry you feel this way too.

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Ladyj84 · 05/02/2024 10:43

Have you asked the Dr about autism

ZeppelinTits · 05/02/2024 10:44

Following because I've felt a bit like this all my life, but particularly so since the pandemic. I was out a few nights ago at something I'd have adored 5-10 years ago, granted I was alone so perhaps that underscored things a bit, but I just felt like, what is the point? There were students behind me dying with excitement and ebullience and I stood there thinking what the hell is wrong with me, why do I feel so jaded. This is a nice event. Why can't I care more? I just felt blank inside.
The closest example I can get to what I think you're describing if the feeling I get when in bed with someone I'm not that into, and I'm too 'in my head' and can't quite get there, iyswim. That kind of faintly self-critical, observing of yourself which means you aren't in the moment because you're sort of thinking too much about it. Is that kind of what you mean?

I'm really grateful you've posted this because I have felt this way for quite some years now, and I'd love to know I'm not alone.

TitusMoan · 05/02/2024 10:51

Don’t waste your money and time on crystals. Maybe do less thinking and more doing? Keep yourself busy. (I do know what you mean btw).

Rosenoire · 05/02/2024 10:53

i understand this too. not to be patronising but try and think of it as a phase you are going through - not in a trivial way but i promise you are not stuck - you are growing through something. so take the pressure off and think “ this is an interesting thing that has happened to me and that i am going through - i wonder where i will go next “ CBT is of very limited help - maybe read up on existential therapy ?

centuries of human beings have had these thoughts. find them
in libraries
and music . voices from the past hold their hands out to us through books and works of art and join us in this crazy experience we call life. you are not alone !! please don’t be drawn into the crappy end of spirituality. are you near a cathedral if you don’t mind christian spirituality ? this next poem i will paste
means a lot to me and many others . you are so young and there is so much beauty in life. don’t be afraid or sad or insignificant. it is working through these things that gives us strength and meaning. someone will need you - be ready for when that happens- it may already be. a girl in a
coffee shop who was always pleased to see me made a long lonely hard period of my life ok. she never knew it - you might be that person. you are that person for your children and as they get older you will use all this sensitivity to guide them in life in a profound way. it is at once your superpower and your kryptonite - the irony !! but people like us get stronger and wiser and more and more fulfilled as we get older. we have this great gift. i am you but 20 years on and i have such joy in my life because i have gone through all these thoughts you have had. stay strong and feed yourself with great music and books and nature and listen to the people who have gone through this too- you belong to a noble tribe.

Rosenoire · 05/02/2024 10:54

Once I am sure there’s nothing going on
I step inside, letting the door thud shut.
Another church: matting, seats, and stone,
And little books; sprawlings of flowers, cut
For Sunday, brownish now; some brass and stuff
Up at the holy end; the small neat organ;
And a tense, musty, unignorable silence,
Brewed God knows how long. Hatless, I take off
My cycle-clips in awkward reverence,

Move forward, run my hand around the font.
From where I stand, the roof looks almost new –
Cleaned, or restored? Someone would know: I don’t.
Mounting the lectern, I peruse a few
Hectoring large-scale verses, and pronounce
‘Here endeth’ much more loudly than I’d meant.
The echoes snigger briefly. Back at the door
I sign the book, donate an Irish sixpence,
Reflect the place was not worth stopping for.

Yet stop I did: in fact I often do,
And always end much at a loss like this,
Wondering what to look for; wondering, too,
When churches fall completely out of use
What we shall turn them into, if we shall keep
A few cathedrals chronically on show,
Their parchment, plate and pyx in locked cases,
And let the rest rent-free to rain and sheep.
Shall we avoid them as unlucky places?

Or, after dark, will dubious women come
To make their children touch a particular stone;
Pick simples for a cancer; or on some
Advised night see walking a dead one?
Power of some sort or other will go on
In games, in riddles, seemingly at random;
But superstition, like belief, must die,
And what remains when disbelief has gone?
Grass, weedy pavement, brambles, buttress, sky,

A shape less recognisable each week,
A purpose more obscure. I wonder who
Will be the last, the very last, to seek
This place for what it was; one of the crew
That tap and jot and know what rood-lofts were?
Some ruin-bibber, randy for antique,
Or Christmas-addict, counting on a whiff
Of gown-and-bands and organ-pipes and myrrh?
Or will he be my representative,

Bored, uninformed, knowing the ghostly silt
Dispersed, yet tending to this cross of ground
Through suburb scrub because it held unspilt
So long and equably what since is found
Only in separation – marriage, and birth,
And death, and thoughts of these – for which was built
This special shell? For, though I’ve no idea
What this accoutred frowsty barn is worth,
It pleases me to stand in silence here;

A serious house on serious earth it is,
In whose blent air all our compulsions meet,
Are recognised, and robed as destinies.
And that much never can be obsolete,
Since someone will forever be surprising
A hunger in himself to be more serious,
And gravitating with it to this ground,
Which, he once heard, was proper to grow wise in,
If only that so many dead lie round.

churchgoing Phillip Larkin

googleyourheartout · 05/02/2024 10:58

I can relate to this a lot. For me though I feel it's down to severe lack of self esteem and life experiences that have had a very negative affect on me. I am a people pleaser and the fear of offending people or annoying people has such a hold on me.

optionsquestions · 05/02/2024 11:00

I think if you aim in a day to do these you'll start to feel much better in a few weeks:

  1. Do something creative (making dinner/paint/write/craft whatever form)
  2. Feed your brain (reading/learning something specific like a language for eg)
  3. Eat well (try to get enough water and/or 5 a day
  4. Get outside (borrow a dog, walk kids to school - at least 30mins walk)

It's what I live by now and simplifying it all down to "what keeps me feeling happy" was how I found what really is my basic to re-set when I went through similar. I think even if I 'just' did the above every day for the rest of my life I wouldn't have wasted my time and would have had a happy time of it.

Good luck.

Adelaide66 · 05/02/2024 11:02

Check your physical health. Are you eating/sleeping/exercising properly?
Too much overthinking is bad, especially when you have narcissistic tendencies. Develope other interests.

Try and enjoy the day. There is always someone worse off than yourself. Work on a conscious effort to be thankful for small things. Negativity is not conducive to making friends and living your best life.

noooooooo · 05/02/2024 11:03

I don’t think you’re alone, I’ve always felt this way, with the exception of a few points where I was at a creative peak and it abated. Since I’ve aged I’ve found that there’s nothing unique to me. Simultaneously depressing and comforting🙃

You’re speaking about not having a particularly strong sense of self. Not to be nosy, I’m asking for a reason, how was your childhood? Do you feel you have a purpose?

Spinet · 05/02/2024 11:10

I think meditation can help. Some stillness. But yes. that's what most art is about isn't it - this strange human condition.

Have a look at Maslow's heirarchy of needs, too. Self-actualisation is important. Doing things that you want to do and you can do.

Corondel · 05/02/2024 11:29

It sounds to me as if you would benefit from work you find meaningful, which would then give you the means to fund private therapy which is transformative, with the right therapist.

TonyaD1986 · 05/02/2024 11:34

I’m a little like this. I’m always thinking “why are we here? What’s it all for? Just to reproduce then die?” It’s deep but it’s real

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