People lacking driving skills/knowledge and slowing down traffic/etc

[EveryoneEnviesMeEverywhere]

At times I drop off, and pick up some of our grandchildren
On the way to school, we encounter 4 mini roundabout and one proper roundabout

Drivers possibly lack skills/knowledge/are careless/selfish often refuse to indicate a left turn. This is turns results in at times missed chance/s to carry straight on/etc.

Not indicating at roundabouts and or indicating not just slows down traffic but can result in accidents and I don't need to go into examples as all good drivers will be aware of this.

More often than not the same people can be seen using and hand-held phone and or driving generally erratically and often fast

This is slightly different but this group of drivers are dangerous and it happens every time I drive I see - a driver shoot down a side road with no intention of stopping and giving way as per highway rules and only pull up when they note the driver that has right of way is not going to stop. This lot often stops past the dotted lines and my heart sinks to my stomach

another gripe of mis is the is very dangerous e types that fling their car door open regardless of what is coming down the road. Just as bad are the idiots that come off the pavement and just walk very quickly to the driver's side door in the middle of the road and just fling their door open often resulting in other drivers braking hard and or swerving. Often, the careless person who caused the problem will rant if you sound your horn at them

I hope reading this thread will get you to change your attitude to dangerous driving/behaviours on our roads and speed up the flow of traffic.

My OH has a dash cam and we've just put it off on my car as I'm always worried in case I need the evidence, it wont be saved and also worried having the car damaged by some thief who wants to steal the dashcam

Do you suffer from these types and if so, what is the solution?

Thank you, I agree to a good extent other than delivery drivers as they often indicate etc but are very fast making three-point turns etc in narrow roads etc but they do have a lot of pressure on them. Recently I have noted they have slowed down, poss because xmas rush is over

Thank you for a really good post

I am "wary" of other drivers. TBH, I treat them as though they are fools, IE not fully aware of the highway code and careless so I do, like most good drivers drive defensively and always on alert for people to fling their car doors open, step into the road without looking or just stepping out, pulling out from a parking position without indicating or care in the world.

My gripe is that these careless types slow down the flow of traffic

Sure, good drivers like you and me when waiting to pull out into a main road see a car coming down indicating left turn may have just left their indicator on by accident and drive past - hence treat them like fools/ignorant of whats around them and or the the highway code

IMO some here are being deliberately obtuse or do not have an idea hoe to drive well and move with the flow of traffic without causing unnecessary hold ups, as prer driving test

Those that are taking the P - I bet you if you do not indicate appriately at junctions etc and other times when required, you won't pass your driving test - why do you think that is the case?. That was a rhetorical question

I'll second the idea that deadlines make people more aggressive on the road. It's not a new problem - in the 90s, "white van man" delivery driver would be paid perhaps a pound per mile, so it was in his interest to cover as many miles as he possibly could in a day. With the government induced while the wealthy prime minister says "just hang in there" while your mortgage is going through the roof cost of living crisis biting hard, many people are having to work as much as they possibly can to make ends meet, so they become all the more frustrated if they are held up, even for a short amount of time.

Only one "idiot" here - read my posts, as its all in there

HTH

The jumping of lights from oncoming traffic when you are trying to turn right

Boils down to selfishness

There’s a thing called attribution theory where if we see someone driving badly we assume they’re a bad driver. If we drive badly (forget to indicate, drift lanes for a moment, miss a turn & do a slightly dodgy manoeuvre) we think oops, silly mistake, I know I’m a great driver.

Well this is the most delightfully passive aggressive thread I have read in a while 😅🍿

Hello
Speak for yourself but not me, please
Indicating is a reflex action and I know the potential consequences if failing to indicate.

Hiya

You can often determine what they are going to do by the way they angle their banger.

A lot of these idiots will bleep their horns at you if you don't move when the lights turn amber. Just shows they know naff all re rules of driving and are completely ignorant of the traffic light system

You shouldn't be moving when the light turns amber because red comes next. Amber means stop.

How do you ever get through the light turning right though as there is no filter.

You are beyond the line but the ongoing traffics is blatantly going through a red light.

I’m just going to leave this here …

“Your friend who claims to be a good driver or a great chess player is usually the least skilled one”

I know that, the poster I quoted knows that, you know that but sadly so many idiots on the road.
The post I quoted about beating the lights turning right in front of them - sadly many idiots shoot off on the amber and if you get what the ads used to call "The AMBER GAMBER" then you get another dangerous driver on the other side jumps the reds, you get an accident.

Even worse, some of these dangerous clowns start bleeping their car horn as I sat waiting at a zebra crossing for the person/s to cross safely and get on the pavement the other side - these idiots no nothing re driving

I get you OP, far too many careless, selfish and reckless drivers on the roads these days. Driving like they own the road and are competing in the Paris - Dakar rally, with no consideration or thought for safety.

There’s always been a small cohort like this, but the things you mention, like not deigning to indicate,have definitely increased a lot lately. It’s dangerous as well as stressful to navigate around.

I sincerely appreciate your comments

It's awful as these types so many problems and rest assured those who willfully don't use indicators because they know where they are going often have other driving shortfalls. Once I see someone like that and then I have to follow them, I keep well back and treat them as though they have no driving skills whatsoever.

I often watch cycle ridders on youtube videoing and reporting bad driver, often phone users. IMO we should also start reporting those that dont signal and just pull out

See below from Daily Morrior - many other news items if you Google

Drivers face £2500 fines for not signalling even if there are ...
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2 May 2019 — While there's no specific motoring offence for failing to signal your intentions to a pedestrian, you could be charged with driving without due ...