UK will not accept hormone-treated Canadian beef - Brexit benefit?

[HagoftheNorth]

The trade deal between EU and Canada permitted the sale of Canadian beef in the EU, even though Canadian agricultural rules allow beef cattle to be routinely treated with hormones (to increase growth). Trade talks between Canada and the UK have broken down because the UK is not prepared to accept this meat.

I’m inclined to think that’s a good thing, both for our farmers (who are not allowed to use this treatment) and for our children’s health. wondered what other people think?

I agree, it’s good.

I'm happy with it. I've spent 15 years raising my child on cook from scratch locally-sourced free range food. I don't want him being fed hormone ridden meat, or chlorine washed chicken as a young adult.

And if that means they put a tax on British cheese, so be it. They do themselves a disservice.

That is fake news.
EU prohibits growth enhancers. https://inspection.canada.ca/exporting-food-plants-or-animals/food-exports/requirements/eu-meat-and-poultry-products/eng/1367938786477/1367938835254. specifically this annex https://inspection.canada.ca/exporting-food-plants-or-animals/food-exports/requirements/eu-meat-and-poultry-products/annex-s/eng/1509633578603/1509633738760

Canada can do whatever they want but to sell in the EU they need to certify freedom from enhancers. So nothing gained with Brexit

Proven wrong in 3 replies op. So still no benefit to Brexit 😂

It's good news but I don't get how it's a Brexit benefit, given the EU rules?

Yeah, it’s good that we won’t get hormone grown beef… but neither will the EU, and Brexit hasn’t helped here.

Canada just isn’t interested in offering us the same deal the EU has, with the same checks.

Do we need to import any beef, other than Irish? Is there a shortage?

Kipepeo I’ve had a look at the link you provided, but I can’t see any reference to growth hormones - can you point me to the part you were referencing please? It is a pretty long document!

My info was from a beef farmer, I assumed he’d know what he’s talking about, but happy to be corrected if the info’s available?

Where would this beef be sold? All the supermarket beef says UK and Ireland as far as I've seen.

Why would we want to import Canadian beef anyway when British beef/cattle welfare is some of the best in the world?

Is it to undercut British farmers in terms of pricing?

I was (or still am) a remainer, and a vegetarian, but I'm genuinely curious why we would be even considering this in the first place?

You did not @HagoftheNorth give it a proper read. The first line of the annex is called "definition", you click on it:
GEPs Growth Enhancing Products: substances having thyreostatic, oestrogenic, androgenic, gestagenic or beta adrenergic action of which the use is prohibited by the EU. A complete list is available in Annex R-2. and it is listed as :

Annex R-2 Growth Enhancing Products (GEPs)Growth Enhancing Products (GEPs) are drugs containing any ingredient listed below:

Stilbenes, stilbene derivatives; salts and esters thereof:
Diethylstilboestrol
Dienoestrol
Hexoestrol
Thyreostats:
Thiouracil
Methylthiouracil
Propylthiouracil
Tapazole
Substances with œstrogenic or androgenic action; salts, esters or metabolites thereof:
Trenbolone
Methyltestosterone
Nortestosterone
Chlorotestosterone acetate
Methylboldenone
Zeranol
Ethinylœstradiol
Substances with gestagenic action:
Chlormadinone acetate
Melengestrol acetate
Medroxyprogesterone acetate
Megestrol acetate
Natural hormones:
Œstradiol
Testosterone
Progesterone
Beta-agonists:
Clenbuterol
Ractopamine
Zilpaterol
any other members of this family of compounds are not permitted at any time during the lifetime of the GEPfree bovines

Your "source" , the beef farmer, should have realised by now, he was conned by the Brexit BS.

"The first condition in order for Canadian federally registered beef establishments to access EU markets, Canadian beef must be produced under the Canadian Program for Certifying Freedom from Growth Enhancing Products (GEPs) for the export of beef to the EU."

Has this helped you change your mind?

So the EU have a trade deal that means they don't have to import such beef but we can't?

Well that's interesting.....does the EU have an advantage over the UK?

It would be interesting to see if any Ministers are questioned about that - it certainly didn't get much press attention that the EU have such a deal.

If this thread gets deleted, then people won't even see this

Are you going to mention this to the beef farmer?

Actually, yes
Thankyou for replying and providing such good references. Shame journalists aren’t as thorough

Christ, this is terrible. 6 years after Brexit we’re still trying to come up with a single benefit and this is the best we can manage and it’s not even a benefit? I despair. I really do.

@cakeorwine why would the thread get deleted? MNHQ isn't in the pay of the Brexit mafia surely?

Surely the farmer “source” wasn’t misinformed by the right wing media? Fancy that!

Agree with this

Sometimes people ask for threads to be deleted if they have made a mistake and sometimes threads get deleted for misinformation.

So the reality never gets out there because when the reality is exposed, the thread goes

So it can be hard to get the truth out there.

For the record, I voted against Brexit and think it was a terrible idea.

I still think it’s good to ask questions and learn, so not really any need to be snippy Pie

For those asking why beef would be imported - it’s used in lots of ready meals/pre-prepared stuff like pasties, and (some?) fast-food restaurants. Obviously, the main criteria there is price, and there’s no provenance labelling. Hence if imported beef can be produced more cheaply because local standards allow that, then that puts pressure on British (and Irish) farmers

And in Canada, someone is asking why do want to import British stuff.

All part of a quid pro qui trade deal

It's always good to check information and double check - I guess some of the media "forgot" to mention the EU deal excluded treated beef.

And if we had got a deal like the EU, then they would probably have forgotten to mention the EU had a similar deal and would have touted that as a Brexit benefit