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Where do you live if you have a good standard of living?

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Lanternnights · 25/01/2024 16:07

Just curious, looking for ideas.

DH and I are generally pretty miserable and demotivated with rising costs. I know I'm not alone in that and I likely am more fortunate than lots of others.

It's been this way for months and we've decided to do some research into making changes. Ultimately we don't like where we live, we don't feel like we have a good standard of living for the output, and we are generally stressed out, feel older, and our health is taking a toll now.

I don't think it's a job issue as we earn the average in our industry in UK, so switching jobs wouldn't help.

I am curious if you have a good standard of living or know someone who does and where do they live? We are interested in emigrating as we've no children and both work for global companies who advertise transfers.

Or am I silly and everywhere is the same?

I'm looking for somewhere our money goes further and we are less stressed/on autopilot.

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mindutopia · 26/01/2024 09:38

We live in Devon. We have what I'd consider a good standard of living, but that's not necessarily down to wear we live. We rented (when rents were low!) and saved up for a decade to buy a house with a large deposit and we earn well. Our mortgage is not small, but it's manageable on our incomes and we have a large house and lovely gardens/land that we enjoy, for kids, gardening, the dog, etc. Neither of us works full-time - I work in an industry where full-time at least officially isn't the norm (though many of us work more than we are contracted to) and dh has his own business, so very much depends on how busy things are/if any employees are off sick, etc. but it's never 9-5 5 days a week. We love the outdoors, so we live somewhere with lots of walking, a national park, the sea, climbing, all things we enjoy.

So yes, we have a very good life - but that's a combination of both working in industries that are flexible and well paid (and working our bums off in our 20s and 30s to get established) and living in a place that suits what we want to do in our free time, and actually making use of it. I don't prioritise hosting family or cleaning the house or whatever on the weekends. We get out and do what we enjoy.

If no children, what are you doing when you aren't working? You must have loads of free time and it sounds like you need to make the most of it.

everygreensock · 26/01/2024 09:39

Lanternnights · 26/01/2024 09:18

Yes @everygreensock I'd like to escape the rat race! That sounds wonderful.

I think an issue for us is that our house is Victorian and requires lots of maintenance, heating, money poured into it. We bought it cheaply but maintaining it costs. The area is very historic and there's not many newer houses. At the same time, I don't fancy living in a new build estate as we don't have any kids to benefit from it and I'd rather be on a main road or near transport links tbh

The housing stock is quite old around here. However there aren't the huge new estates that you get in other areas (only one new estate in hexham and it's not huge and tastefully done).
However the newer builds that are more rural tend to be quite expensive grand designs style houses.

OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 26/01/2024 09:46

Lanternnights · 26/01/2024 09:26

@NewYear24 that's actually really helpful to know. I need to find a newer style house near amenities I think.

Yeah, there's no point to having a house that needs loads of maintenance if you're not actually enjoying it. If you like Victorian houses enough to justify the extra cost and work, great, but you don't appear to.

Patrickiscrazy · 26/01/2024 10:01

St.Albans. I have a great care free lifestyle, but would rather live in an apartment, be single again and free.

Lanternnights · 26/01/2024 10:11

@mindutopia that sounds a wonderful lifestyle.

I don't have kids but don't seem to have much free time either. I work Mon to Fri and sometimes a day at the weekend to get ahead of the week. The free time I have, I am quite drained so maybe don't use it very wisely!

DH works Mon to Fri until late and then normally works a Sunday too.

I hope for a slower pace of life that gives us energy to enjoy our time.

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Crikeyalmighty · 26/01/2024 10:23

@Lanternnights if you have lots of equity or at least a decent amount , I would recommend if you stay in UK to find somewhere you like and rent for at least a year to see how you feel. For instance parts of South wales, Devon , Dorset and as a poster mentioned places like Hexham or Yorkshire dales will have a pace of life and lifestyle you may well prefer- even here in Somerset places like Wells and Frome are still pretty affordable - but rent somewhere nice, and get a feel for it- don't risk all your cash down on areas you aren't familiar with especially on a static or even declining market- it's better to pay £25k for a year on rent than on mortgage plus maybe your house dropping £30k within a few weeks

If you go abroad- definitely rent!! Be aware some country's though want 3 months rent plus 1 month deposit just to get the keys- Denmark was like this, Germany was too- Sweden it's more like UK, as is Spain

Vettrianofan · 26/01/2024 10:29

Not England.

babasaclover · 26/01/2024 11:00

@Lanternnights Island is amazing, not backwards more like traditional. You can do everything you can do here and no one will bet eyelid. However they have good community feeling and anyone would help you out. Even if you are a stranger I love that about the place I speak as a half Irish half British person.

DemBonesDemBones · 26/01/2024 16:48

Moved from SE England to Scotland and we will NEVER go back. We went from living hand to mouth to having money to save. We've just bought a 6 bed house. We couldn't have afforded a 2 bed in England.

LaChienneDesFromages · 26/01/2024 16:56

Just outside Cambridge. We have a great standard of living. Lots of culture, nice countryside, brilliant produce and restaurants, great opportunities for the kids. Fantastic community with lots going on. A quick hop to London or Norfolk beaches for days out. Housing much cheaper than London.

Our standard of living has improved immeasurably since Covid. DH commutes twice a week to London but kept a good salary. He was able to get his two dogs, which he’s dreamed of since childhood. I work four short days on a good day rate. We work hard, but no harder than many and love it here.

Simonjt · 28/01/2024 06:16

We’ve moved from London (north zone 1) to Sweden, specifically Stockholm.

We still love London, there aren’t any other places we would want to live in the UK, so for us it was a case of lower quality of life in London, or leave the UK and see how we get on.

We now live in a fairly big four bedroom detached house, it also has a two bedroom flat in the open basement (front is mainly underground, the back half is fully open, has its own door, patio doors to the garden, sauna etc), it had a good size wrap around garden and lots of parking. Our road and neighbourhood is quiet and safe, the roads are genuinely empty. We’re a 25-30 minute walk to the very centre of Stockholm, or a 2-3 minute walk to the nearest metro station. Housing in the city is pricey, but if we lived in a nice town with lots of services our house would probably be arouns £60,000.

We have children, so of course OP our life and needs are different. We’re currently paying around £80 per month for fulltime childcare for our two year old daughter, if we need to use wrap around care for our son its £8 per month.

I’ve only just started working, I was unemployed when we first moved over so I had time to sort anything that needed doing in the house etc. In the UK one of us not working simply wouldn’t have been an option. We both work part time 3 days a week, however as flexible working is so normal for parents our hours actually equate to two full days, so on those three days we essentially work a little less than school hours.

Our experience of healthcare has so far been good, my husband recently had surgery for his appendix, he had his own room, the ward had a living room, his care was good, the food was nice and there was a decent amount of choice, painkillers etc weren’t rationed and the ward was adequately staffed.

For us there is a lot to do, we can be in museums, theatres etc within 30 minutes of leaving the house, or we can be in a forest, on a lake etc.

I don’t find Sweden that expensive, eating and drinking out is, but I find everything else either cheaper or the same. Public transport is good and cheap, childcare is good quality and incredibly cheap. I find supermarkets are almost the same price as the UK, so our food bill hasn’t really changed. Our utility bills are cheaper.

Entrance fees are cheaper, we’ve bought a yearly city pass, pass for the amusement park etc, and it has cost less than it would in the UK. For the price of an alton towers ticket here gives unlimited access to Grona Lund (incuding shows).

A big thing for us is safety, which I’ve actually found it hard to get used to, our son walks to and from school alone and go to the park on his own, he’s eight, he couldn’t have done that in London. And a weird one I didn’t expect, I’m yet to experience any racism (I’m well aware that this at a point will change), this is the longest I have ever gone in my adult life without experiencing racism.

Sorry about the essay.

Brightredtulips · 28/01/2024 06:21

South ayrshire in Scotland. Near the sea. Decent housing. Easy commute to city. Decent schools.

Toddlerteaplease · 28/01/2024 06:29

Nottingham. Wish I was in Liverpool but apart from that it's ok.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 28/01/2024 06:38

middle east

SonicAllanKey · 28/01/2024 06:41

Rural County Durham. Beautiful scenery, lovely people, cheaper for a property than N Yorkshire or Northumberland. Two kids in school. A dog, cats, and chickens. We’re happy.

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 28/01/2024 06:54

Perth, Australia. Wages are high, quality of life is great, houses are getting more expensive but still a lot cheaper than Sydney/Melbourne, and the weather is glorious. But it's different strokes for different folks, I'm from NI and couldn't get out of the place quick enough!

WelcomeToMonkeyTown · 28/01/2024 07:10

Germany.

I'm from Sheffield originally, moved south for work, hated it, & now live in a small town in the north of the Black Forest.

Weather is lovely - summers are spent at the local outdoor pool with a cold beer, and in winter we're about an hour from ski slopes.

We pay a lot of tax, but it's worth it for the education system & healthcare. This week my 6yo was unwell. I called the dr at 15h, had an appointment at 1740 & was home by 1815 via the pharmacy.

There's 15 kids in my daughter's class at school. When we lived in the UK we paid £1500/month for nursery. When we moved here it was €200/month for kindergarten.

I'm aware I live in a small town in a wealthy state (Baden-Württemberg) and the experience would certainly be different in inner-city Dresden for example, but I love our lifestyle.

Random30 · 28/01/2024 07:15

I live in Switzerland, and have a better standard of living than I would there. I’m in a German speaking city and it is definitely possible to survive and work without German especially if you are in the STEM field.

The visa situation has changed post-Brexit so you would have to check it out.

yes it is expensive but salaries reflect that.

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