Do you think an attack like the twin towers will ever happen again in our life time?

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Watching remember me and world trade centre and it made me wonder would an attack like that ever happen again in our life time?

Im not naive enough to say will it ever happen again because it probably will. 100 years from now, 200 years from now, someone will orchestra another attack.

But do you think an attack like that could happen again in the next 50-70 years?

It happens a lot.

Over 600 mass shootings in the US last year.

746 killed 2442 injured.

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You do realise Yemen is one of the poorest countries in the world and the Houthis have not killed anyone, unlike Israel. But I suppose they are inconvenient brown colour and their lives are nowhere like as important as American lives

ChatGPT?

The Houthis have 'killed no one' you say. Conviently forgetting hundreds of thousands of 'brown colour people' (as you refer the them) since they started the civil war. Or don't they matter to you?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenicivil_war_(2014%E2%80%93present)

@CrappyBarbara ChatGPT posting in Chat seems oddly appropriate …

I think the 9/11 attacks stick with us (those old enough to remember) were on live TV and they were in the US.

Union Carbide killed between 15 000 - 20 000 people in Bhopal. The ground is still contaminated and the effects on survivors, and their children born after the disaster, are substantial.

BTW The Railway Men on Netflix is excellent, it is about the rail workers who saved many many lives after the gas leak.

From a terrorism standpoint, its possibly the most effective execution ever. You don't like saying it as it sounds like praise, but it's true.

What made it so unique/astonishing is that much of the world (myself included) saw a large passenger plane hit a skyscraper live as it happened. And it was probably the most famous skyscraper in the world so the familiarity heighted the emotion. It is without question the most surreal thing I've ever seen or ever will see. Filmmakers have released film dramatisations of the attack (World Trade Center starring Nicolas Cage, the Paul Greengrass film United 93 etc. etc.) but I have never seen a second of any of them because they pale in comparison to seeing the thing live. What's the point in seeing a fake version of it and one in which you know what is going to happen? This isn't the Titanic where none of us seen that disaster so we can then imagine it while watching the James Cameron film, we saw this disaster live on TV.

The terrorists couldn't have planned it "better" by doing the attack in waves and in the same location. The first tower getting hit meant the news channels immediately switched over and zoomed in on the exact location where unbeknownst to them and all of us watching the next attack would occur, which meant that tens of millions were able to witness what we did live. It is quite possible (likely even) that the terrorists calculated that the 15 minute gap between the two towers getting hit would mean that this would happen. The only reason I saw it live was my dad had Sky News on at the time and called me in when it switched over to the WTC at roughly 1:55pm and like pretty much everyone else watching around the world we thought "pilot/navigation error".. which was a casual debate.. until you then watch a passenger plane disappear inside the other tower followed by a fireball. When you take in what just happened, its "this is deliberate".

There will almost certainly never be one as dramatic as that, but another attack is a nigh on certainty. There is no justification for one of course, but what is happening to the population of over 2 million people in Gaza, making them leave their homes (which have been eviscerated) and directing them to the southern part of their open air prison, which is also then bombed, creates immense anger at those who are carrying out the atrocity and a response is likely. I think it will be america hit again as they are providing the resources for what is taking place. Tend to agree with H. G. Wells, humans are such a disappointment.

So long as there is no killing or any form of violence I think what the Houthis are doing in trying to disrupt the shipping lanes as a form of protest is commendable. Disrupting normalcy when an atrocity is taking place is the best way to protest, as was the case when Apartheid South Africa was boycotted (as segregated america before it should have been). They are witnessing tens of thousands of brown people (whose lives do matter less to those committing and financing the act) getting blown apart with two million displaced and are rightly outraged. We all should be. Israel had much of our sympathy on the 7th of October after the atrocity committed on Israeli civilians (kids massacred at a music festival for God's sake) by Hamas, but they then tore that up via collective punishment on an entire population which was resourced by america.

I think 25,000 murders in Gaza, the majority of which are women and children, could (and will be) legitimately be classed as terrorism, don't you OP?

So long as there is no killing or any form of violence I think what the Houthis are doing in trying to disrupt the shipping lanes as a form of protest is commendable.

You do realise Yemen is one of the poorest countries in the world and the Houthis have not killed anyone, unlike Israel. But I suppose they are inconvenient brown colour and their lives are nowhere like as important as American lives

Genuinely jaw-dropping that Houthi-support and misinformation like this is not just being posted in the first place, but being allowed to stand. Can only assume HQ do not have adequate knowledge around this subject to deal with it, but I would have thought a site that exists primarily for women would not entertain glorification of groups who repress and sexually enslave women. And that's not to mention the eye-watering number of deaths the Houthis have been directly or indirectly responsible for, as @AliceA2021 points out. And the naivety to think for one moment the Houthis are doing this because they support Gazans - they don't care one jot, it's a purely strategic move to consolidate the support they've lost among Yemenis and carve a more influential position on the so-called 'resistance axis'. And to answer OP's question, yes terrorist attacks are a certainty, but pandering to and excusing groups like the Houthis isn't going to eliminate that likelihood.

The Houthis have not killed anyone? Are you fucking serious?

@Eyesopenwideawake the deaths in Gaza are a tragedy and it is horrify. I think everyone wants it to end, not least the Israelis who want the hostages back. But words like terrorism and genocide have specific (legally defined) meanings. It’s linguistically akin to saying a massive multi car pile up on the motorway is mass murder. It’s awful but it’s not mass murder, just like the war is awful but it’s not terrorism or genocide.

Absolutely spot on

@TrigTannet - the Israelis are so trigger happy they murdered their own surrendering hostages. Are you seriously trying to tell me that one of the most militarily sophisticated armies in the world has no option but to obliterate schools, hospitals and residential areas in their pursuit of adult males fighters??

Terrorism definition: the unlawfull use of violence and intimidationn, especially against civilianss_, in the pursuit of political aims.

Seems like a good fit to me tbh.

These buildings are destroyed along with mosques and other public buildings as the Hamas have no resect for Palestian lives either and cowardly use these buildings to store weapons in and fire missles from!

Is the use of civilians, including women and children, as shields a terrorist act?

Please quote your (independently verified) proof for this claim.

It was a question.

Is the use of civilians, including women and children, as shields a terrorist act?

The question itself assumes that is what's happening.

So long as there is no killing or any form of violence I think what the Houthis are doing in trying to disrupt the shipping lanes as a form of protest is commendable.

You do realise Yemen is one of the poorest countries in the world and the Houthis have not killed anyone, unlike Israel. But I suppose they are inconvenient brown colour and their lives are nowhere like as important as American lives

You have to hand it to these Muslim terror groups. They must have cracking PR that they can convince a load of westerners on a mums forum that they are a great bunch of lads.

And that's what's so fucking scary.

Nothing has "calmed down", technology has been developed to allow liquids and electronics to be safely scanned within hand baggage. The liquid restrictions are nothing to do with 911 anyway, it was a result of a foiled terror plot in 2006. The scanning of shoes was after Richard Reid, the shoe bomber's failed attempt to bring down a plane. There have been many terror attacks and attempts since, but the nature of this is terrorists look for new ways to do it so they are less likely to be stopped. The twin towers attack was probably more shocking to many as the media covered it more. I have read more shocking reports of terrorism since despite being deeply affected by 911 as an airline employee.

https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/hybrid-threats-hamas-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza/87