The Eleanor Williams "fake rape" case

[m00ngirl]

There's a BBC3 documentary on tonight about the Eleanor Williams (remember #justiceforellie in 2020?) case.

"How videos exposed the rape lies of Barrow's Eleanor Williams www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67957726 "

She was sentenced to 8.5y for fabricating rape and abuse claims. She had been seriously injuring herself with hammers and so on.

(Women only please) How do you feel about the BBC doing a documentary on this case?

Whilst it's unique and there's a public interest case, I'm seriously worried that this girl has been failed by psychiatrists and now possibly the media as I don't think she has a diagnosis and yet she CLEARLY is extremely, extremely unwell.

I'm also angry that she got 8.5y and a documentary whilst many of us who have been victims of RASSO never had the perp properly investigated let alone sentenced, and police often investigate the victim rather than the perp.

However they do the doc, like the Liam Allen case this will now be used by a certain quarter to exaggerate claims that women routinely lie about male crimes.

Just feels off to have a doc on this girl but yet little of the same journalistic attention on chronic RASSO, DV etc.

I wonder if you would feel differently if one of your loved ones had been put through years of hell and had their life , their livelihood and their reputation destroyed?

From the op it sounds like the op is a victim so presumably has had years of hell and possibly rebuilt their life from ruin. Her point is actual victims don't get as much time.

She is obviously very mentally unwell. I agree the ethics of this documentary are dubious.

Of course she deserves a lengthy sentence, only because some people who commit the offence don't get as long.. doesn't mean that two wrongs make a right.

I have personal experience of a loved one accused of rape and it was horrific and ruined their life and everyone close to them. I disagree that the police investigate the victim over the accused.

Yes, it's sickening that rape victims are not given enough justice but in the reality putting people off false accusations helps the real rape victims in the long run as it will deter those taking up value resources that could be used for real victims

She brought it to the public's attention. Her and her family fed people lies businesses were ruined and people suffered horrendous racial abuse. People still struggle to believe she beat herself with a hammer. Oh and lied about being trafficked in Amsterdam Even said she had a baby boy when there was no baby she's one sick fantasist.

I live in Barrow so have lived through this whole circus. The Justice for Ellie shit everywhere and being told I'm a nonce because I didn't believe her. Trust me if there was a grooming gang in Barrow we would know about it. The truth needs to be told those men need their justice. She paraded a woe me story to the nation. Now it's time we hear the other side.

Not really people still believe her after everything that came out in court. They need to see what the police saw. How they know she was lying. As well as getting the message accross to anyone thinking of doing the same.

@Wetblanket78 fair enough, thanks for your post, that makes sense then to draw attention to it if people still believe her in Barrow (wtf!) and it still causes negative impacts for people. Really sorry to hear you were accused of that as well. These are very rare cases.

I still felt, watching the documentary, that something huge is being missed. A healthy young girl does not cause that level of extreme self harm and harm to others for no reason - she likely has serious psychiatric issues and possibly early age trauma from something else. Yet no diagnosis. That makes me think she's been failed by the health services, and also that it's very risky to perpetuate the perception that ordinary healthy women are capable of this kind of deception, given how women are disbelieved about rape.

Why does she get a defence of mental illness when rapists don't?

She absolutely destroyed many, many lives. Its so lucky that none have committed suicide.
Not just the lives of the men she accused but their families too.
Businesses destroyed as well. Community shattered and Racism inflamed.

Plus her actions will cast a shadow of doubt over REAL victims.

Whatever her MH she absolutely deserves a lengthy prison sentence. Personally I think false rape accusations should get the same jail term as a convicted rapist would, and consecutive for each separate accusation.

She knew exactly what she was doing.
Even when she was on bail she went out once more and battered herself to kingdom come with a hammer

I believed her at the time. I still can’t fathom someone hitting themselves with a hammer.
I really hope Ellie gets psychiatric help whilst inside.