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Any florists here?

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Badtard · 17/01/2024 10:13

DD (12) wants to be a florist when she's older. She's a good all-rounder but feels drawn to owning her own flower stall, eventually her own business.

I'll support her all the way but can't help but feel that she's romanticising it a little.

Can you tell me the realities of your profession please? How you got into it? What qualifications you need?

She's looking for work experience from local florists but local ones here aren't very helpful.

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Badtard · 17/01/2024 15:40

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Badtard · 17/01/2024 19:41

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Papillon23 · 17/01/2024 19:46

My mum trained as a florist. She loved arranging flowers and said the exams were very rigorous - I think her final exam she had 3 or 4 hours to produce a wedding bouquet, a hand tied bouquet, a table centerpiece and possibly a wreath? I'm vague on the details but that was the gist.

She didn't end up wanting to become a florist for various reasons.

One was the need to go down to the London wholesale markets super early in the morning. I assume other very big cities will have markets too and I'm not sure how often you'd need to go - I think probably a couple of times a week? I'm also not sure if that's something you can now avoid through online purchasing now.

The second, and I think this will always be unavoidable, is that the florist shops are permanently cold. She felt she couldn't really wear gloves because it stopped her from being as dextrous but she hated having colds hands and being cold all the time.

I'm now an accountant and I always think it's important to remember that as well as the flowers you also have to run a small business and personally I wouldn't want to do that.

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Anxhor · 17/01/2024 19:49

She needs to get a Saturday job in a florist once she's old enough to get real hands on experience

Badtard · 17/01/2024 22:45

Anxhor · 17/01/2024 19:49

She needs to get a Saturday job in a florist once she's old enough to get real hands on experience

That's definitely the plan and have started to make enquiries.

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Badtard · 17/01/2024 22:46

Papillon23 · 17/01/2024 19:46

My mum trained as a florist. She loved arranging flowers and said the exams were very rigorous - I think her final exam she had 3 or 4 hours to produce a wedding bouquet, a hand tied bouquet, a table centerpiece and possibly a wreath? I'm vague on the details but that was the gist.

She didn't end up wanting to become a florist for various reasons.

One was the need to go down to the London wholesale markets super early in the morning. I assume other very big cities will have markets too and I'm not sure how often you'd need to go - I think probably a couple of times a week? I'm also not sure if that's something you can now avoid through online purchasing now.

The second, and I think this will always be unavoidable, is that the florist shops are permanently cold. She felt she couldn't really wear gloves because it stopped her from being as dextrous but she hated having colds hands and being cold all the time.

I'm now an accountant and I always think it's important to remember that as well as the flowers you also have to run a small business and personally I wouldn't want to do that.

Thank you @Papillon23 . Cold hands! Didn't occur to me. The early starts was the obvious one I thought of.

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Papillon23 · 18/01/2024 06:48

Badtard · 17/01/2024 22:46

Thank you @Papillon23 . Cold hands! Didn't occur to me. The early starts was the obvious one I thought of.

No worries - I feel like Mumsnet must have some florists somewhere so hopefully we'll get an answer from them!

Pootles34 · 18/01/2024 06:54

I used to work with an ex florist, she said the cold was the worst. During wedding season she would also have loads of flowers at her house so that had to be cold too!

Also never being free on a Saturday was mentioned...

TerfTalking · 18/01/2024 06:55

I always fancied it when younger, I even did evening classes but I was shit, I’m not artistic at all. Our local florist has their flowers delivered, I’ve seen the massive Dutch flower trucks delivering early AM on the high street before the shops open, so no trips to flower markets round here.

colleges do floristry courses, I found this website easily on Google, there must be similar in other areas.

https://thefloristryschool.co.uk/courses

Accredited Courses - The Floristry School - Sheffield

Our focus is on improving floristry skills, developing professional business practice through our bespoke courses, accredited programmes and national apprenticeships.

https://thefloristryschool.co.uk/courses

Nestofwalnuts · 18/01/2024 07:29

I had a p/t job in a florist at uni. I loved it. Not sure what, if any, qualifications my lovely boss had.

Definitely get a saturday job. A good florist will train you up - teach you all the names of cut flowers and plants, how to care for them, how to make Christmas wreaths, button holes, hand-tied bouquets, how to process interflora orders etc. I guess there must be City & Guilds qualifications for the full professional training in funeral and wedding arrangements.

It is a wonderful job. I have such happy memories of it. Tell her to start weight training - boxes of flowers and buckets of water are heavy!

newnamethanks · 18/01/2024 08:57

You've seen those stunning seasonal and wedding displays that appear by magic, overnight, in upmarket hotels etc? Florists put them there, working overnight and out of sight. Thankless. Choose a different job.

StrongTea · 18/01/2024 09:22

A friend has recently completed a short course on floristry at a local college. Might be something to consider?

WagWoofWalkMeeoow · 18/01/2024 09:31

I have no idea, but I think it's one of those things that sounds beautiful & creative & all the rest, but in reality is hard bloody work & hard to compete with the big florist companies & supermarkets

TheNoodlesIncident · 18/01/2024 09:33

Really obvious to state, but florists have to work extra time around Valentine's Day, Mother's Day etc.

Plus, you will have to deal sensitively and with empathy for people ordering funeral flowers. Mostly it's not too bad but occasionally you will get to make flowers up for very small coffins and manage complaints from grief-stricken customers because you put, say, white roses in the hand tied and "our mum hated white roses, I was so upset when I saw" but they didn't tell you beforehand to avoid white roses...

Minor considerations but something to bear in mind, as well as the hideous cold shops, bleaching and filling flower buckets and getting hands like pincushions from making holly wreaths at Christmas.

piscofrisco · 18/01/2024 09:38

I did a florists course at evening school and loved it. I was put off the idea of having my own shop due to overheads, foot traffic being low etc etc. The tutor ran her business from home so did bigger commissions such as weddings and funerals but didn't go in for the off the cuff bouquets. She said she made more money that way all in, without the overheads.
As part of the course (and the best part actually!) we got a pass to enable us to shop at the local floristry wholesalers which was brilliant as I could get lots of flowers for the house really cheaply! So the early morning wholesaler but might not be such a problem but the cold in the shop could be!

There is an online Diploma course that keeps coming up in my insta feed-think it's £25 that might give her some basic skills to build on?

Avacardo2023 · 18/01/2024 09:48

My niece is a florist but was let go from her last job in October as the shop had to close down and there are literally no florist jobs around at the moment. People don't have enough money to buy flowers anymore and when they do they will just pick up a bunch from the supermarket.

Maybe your DD could look into getting work experience at the market street florist section in Morrisons.

The top London hotels such as the Savoy all employ talented florists and pay quite well. Sadly I think the days of making a decent living from having a flower stall are long gone.

Badtard · 18/01/2024 19:08

Thanks everyone. Definitely food for thought from a wide range of views and experience. A Saturday job is the way forward most definitely. She's been eyeing up potential stalls in markets too - maybe that's a possibility.

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FleurFloral · 09/03/2024 13:05

Florist here!

You're right, floristry is romanticised. The people who are making any sort of decent money in floristry take it seriously and operate as proper commercial businesses. This will be a very busy high street florist or large wedding and event florist who are generally workshop based. They generally buy large quantities of stock and churn out work day after day. Staff work quickly and they operate like well oiled machines. These are the businesses that will stand the test of time.

In recent years a lot of one (wo)man bands have sprung up. Lots of middle aged ladies who have had previous careers, do a couple of workshops then set up on their own working from home. They post a lot of photos on Instagram and seem to spend a lot of time phaffing. I freelance and have worked for a couple. Amazing social media presence but technically not actually very good florists. I recently saw one person who was doing a course with one of the big London florists and was passing the work off as her own. Sadly the flower school apron she was wearing was a bit of a giveaway! I'm not sure if many of them are making a lot of money.

What's the job like? Well, it's very physical. You stand on your feet all day and are often lugging buckets of water, cast iron pedestals, large arrangements around. A large handtied bouquet is heavy and you have to be able to hold it in one hand while your making it. It's also very dirty and there is lots of waste so emptying large bins and jumping in the Biffa bin are standard. Green hands, dirty finger nails and sore hands from cuts, grazes and splinters are standard. Florist shops and workshops rarely have heating so it's pretty freezing unless the weather is warm.

It's tough in floristry at the moment. Flower prices have risen significantly in the last few years. I live in an affluent area so still work for several businesses who are busy but there are quite a few shops that have closed so there are very few job opportunities around and it is also very low paid overall. Workplaces are very varied and it can be a bit bitchy. Everyone wants to do the nice stuff and if you're working with strong personalities you can get lumbered with all the grunt work of sweeping the floor and bin emptying because not everyone understands the meaning of team.

Having said all of the above, I love it!

In your daughter's shoes, I would research all of the florists in the area and identify the best one in terms of reputation and how busy they are. I would aim for a busy high street florist who are aimed at mid to high end of market. I'd see if I could get a Saturday job and just say yes to everything. Get used to sweeping the floor, making tea, emptying the bins, conditioning flowers, gift wrapping plants, etc. Don't expect to do any floristry. Just soak up the atmosphere and take it all in. Watch the staff and how it all works. From there, I would ask them to take me on as an apprentice. Do the level 2 qualification and learn on the job. I didn't quite take this route myself but it's the best way and the florists I've met who have done this are generally much better florists. You need to learn the technical stuff first. Creative expression can come after!

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