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Coming off UC due to house purchase question

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StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 20:36

Hi all

I'm a single, full time working parent to 2 DC. I currently receive a small amount of UC because I private rent and pay childcare.

My grandparent recently passed away, their house was sold and my parents have very kindly offered to gift me some of the proceeds (around £20k) as a deposit to buy a house. I was amazed that I could get a mortgage and have had an offer accepted on a small property (we live in a cheap area).

I don't have those gifted funds in my account yet, the solicitor says it's not necessary to do that until we complete in a few months time and I don't have any savings of my own bar a few hundred so I am still receiving UC (around £200 per month).

My question is, obviously I need to come off UC as soon as the house purchase goes through as I know I'm not eligible as a home owner but do I need to tell them exactly why or can I just say I don't want to claim anymore? The amount of paperwork they wanted when I did my claim a few years ago totally stressed me out and I'd assume they would want every single document to do with the deposit and sale. I wouldn't be claiming when the deposit hits my account so wouldn't be claiming anything I'm not entitled to

I'm just trying to spare myself some stress, and money as amazingly the mortgage will be about £300 cheaper than the rent I'm paying!!!

Thanks

OP posts:
StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 21:40

purpleme12 · 11/01/2024 21:37

@YouveGotAFastCar OP has said her solicitor has told her the same thing, that it's got to come from her account

I think it's probably so they have less paperwork to do, they haven't asked for a gifted deposit form or anything, just to see the funds in my parents account now and then said they need to see it in my account on completion day

OP posts:
Kwasi · 11/01/2024 21:43

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 20:47

I didn't think I would be eligible because I would have had over £16k in my account, if even for only 1 day and also because I would have £20k in equity, wouldn't they count that as 'savings'??

From what I gather, it's only equity in additional/rental properties that's classed as savings.

Plenty of people have mortgages and claim UC. Give DWP a call.

Tbird5 · 11/01/2024 21:44

Sorry to jump in on your post but I have a bit of a question about gifting money for a deposit.
A family member has offered to gift me deposit for a house purchase but it's in the region of 80k and everything I've read says that I would have to pay tax on that. Is that true? Tbh I've not got the money to pay tax on quarter of that.

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 21:46

Tbird5 · 11/01/2024 21:44

Sorry to jump in on your post but I have a bit of a question about gifting money for a deposit.
A family member has offered to gift me deposit for a house purchase but it's in the region of 80k and everything I've read says that I would have to pay tax on that. Is that true? Tbh I've not got the money to pay tax on quarter of that.

What kind of tax? Solicitor hasn't mentioned that to me.

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HalloumiGeller · 11/01/2024 21:54

You can still UC as a homeowner (I have) as its about your circumstances and income, not whether you own or rent. However, you can't with that much money in your account.

Tbird5 · 11/01/2024 21:57

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 21:46

What kind of tax? Solicitor hasn't mentioned that to me.

They told me it's because of the amount. Think your amount is ok.
If I exept a smaller amount won't be able to buy anything near where I am, only looking at 2 beds but house prices are ridiculous around here. And not a chance my LO's dad would let me move out of this area 😤

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 21:59

Tbird5 · 11/01/2024 21:57

They told me it's because of the amount. Think your amount is ok.
If I exept a smaller amount won't be able to buy anything near where I am, only looking at 2 beds but house prices are ridiculous around here. And not a chance my LO's dad would let me move out of this area 😤

Just did a quick Google and I think it's ok as a gifted deposit, it's only if it's gifted to you and you make money on it, so if it's in the bank earning interest.

OP posts:
CKL987 · 11/01/2024 22:08

Tbird5 · 11/01/2024 21:44

Sorry to jump in on your post but I have a bit of a question about gifting money for a deposit.
A family member has offered to gift me deposit for a house purchase but it's in the region of 80k and everything I've read says that I would have to pay tax on that. Is that true? Tbh I've not got the money to pay tax on quarter of that.

What have you read? Do you have any links? If you are gifted £80k from someone you will not have to pay tax. If the person gifting you the money dies within 7 years of the gift there may be inheritance tax to pay but that will depend on the deceased's circumstances, and the amount drops each year after year 3.

sondot · 11/01/2024 22:20

You won't get the same amount of UC as you will no longer receive anything towards housing

ladygindiva · 11/01/2024 23:07

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 20:47

I didn't think I would be eligible because I would have had over £16k in my account, if even for only 1 day and also because I would have £20k in equity, wouldn't they count that as 'savings'??

They don't count equity that you live in as savings, no.

purpleme12 · 11/01/2024 23:19

StrawberryKick · 11/01/2024 21:40

I think it's probably so they have less paperwork to do, they haven't asked for a gifted deposit form or anything, just to see the funds in my parents account now and then said they need to see it in my account on completion day

Your parents will still have to sign a form saying it's a gifted deposit and they still have to answer all the questions about how they got the money. Even if the money will come from you to the solicitors. I'm guessing you just haven't got to that stage yet

Thejackrussellsrule · 11/01/2024 23:19

You'll be entitled to more UC as the work allowance when your renting is £379 and when you own and aren't claiming housing costs its £631.

www.gov.uk/universal-credit/how-your-wages-affect-your-payments

Babyroobs · 11/01/2024 23:43

Thejackrussellsrule · 11/01/2024 23:19

You'll be entitled to more UC as the work allowance when your renting is £379 and when you own and aren't claiming housing costs its £631.

www.gov.uk/universal-credit/how-your-wages-affect-your-payments

Impossible to know this as op would lose her rent element making overall UC potentially much lower. Very unlikely to be getting more than she is now.

WithACatLikeTread · 12/01/2024 09:15

sondot · 11/01/2024 22:20

You won't get the same amount of UC as you will no longer receive anything towards housing

She can earn more though before they take off deductions.

Heyhoherewegoagain · 12/01/2024 09:18

jesper1 · 11/01/2024 20:56

If your patents are gifting the deposit, you will need to complete paperwork that states this. I would think the deposit could go straight to the solicitor from them

This. Surely your parents can transfer the money direct without it touching your account? Then surely you’ll still be eligible for the help you get towards childcare?

And congratulations! That must feel so good to be able to have your own property-the end of any uncertainty with landlords etc

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2024 09:23

purpleme12 · 11/01/2024 21:15

To all those saying the parents can pay it straight to the solicitor, I thought this too but this is not the case.
My parents gifted me money for my deposit (so yes they had to sign the form, do all the checks etc) but the solicitor said I still had to transfer it to them from my account. My parents had to put it in my account then I had to put it in solicitor's account

It is the case. I know because I gave money to my son. It never went anywhere near his account, it was transferred directly to the conveyancing solicitor.

SheilaFentiman · 12/01/2024 09:29

Solicitors need to understand the source of the funds they are receiving. OP is their client so they would have done ID checks on her when they took her on. They do not want to do ID checks on the parents, hence wanting it to come via her bank.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 12/01/2024 09:30

Its worth running the figures through a benefit calculator, because the amount you receive is so low its possible that it will be a zero award once the rent element is removed.

FlamingoYellow · 12/01/2024 09:32

I just wanted to add - when I sold my house and claimed UC while living in rented I had to show proof to UC of the money going into my account and proof of house sale. They said I could continue to receive UC for 6 months or until the sale on the new house completed. I was also still able to claim a small amount of UC as a homeowner.

So even if the money goes into your account before being transferred to the solicitor, at worst you might have your UC payments paused until you have a meeting with them.

WithACatLikeTread · 12/01/2024 09:42

If you put your wage and age of your children here people might be able to do a calculation. The first £631 of your wage is not affected by deductions when you have a mortgage.

Babyroobs · 12/01/2024 09:55

FlamingoYellow · 12/01/2024 09:32

I just wanted to add - when I sold my house and claimed UC while living in rented I had to show proof to UC of the money going into my account and proof of house sale. They said I could continue to receive UC for 6 months or until the sale on the new house completed. I was also still able to claim a small amount of UC as a homeowner.

So even if the money goes into your account before being transferred to the solicitor, at worst you might have your UC payments paused until you have a meeting with them.

I think these rules could be different because op is not selling a house and having a lump sum form that to purchase another. It is not the same situation at all.

purpleme12 · 12/01/2024 09:58

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2024 09:23

It is the case. I know because I gave money to my son. It never went anywhere near his account, it was transferred directly to the conveyancing solicitor.

Ok well it's not always the case then. Some solicitors won't let you do that

sondot · 12/01/2024 10:37

Thejackrussellsrule · 11/01/2024 23:19

You'll be entitled to more UC as the work allowance when your renting is £379 and when you own and aren't claiming housing costs its £631.

www.gov.uk/universal-credit/how-your-wages-affect-your-payments

Oh o had no idea, I'm sorry for being misleading!

Can I ask though, what is Luke like in real terms of how much more someone would get? So many people have said they don't get any help becsue they own, when actually they get more in their pocket than someone so gets rent contributions

purpleme12 · 12/01/2024 10:40

Do they? I was always under the impression you receive more if you rent. Because you don't get any help from UC towards monthly mortgage whereas you do with rent

sondot · 12/01/2024 10:41

purpleme12 · 12/01/2024 10:40

Do they? I was always under the impression you receive more if you rent. Because you don't get any help from UC towards monthly mortgage whereas you do with rent

I thought best what the poster meant about the work allowance being higher, they would get more?

Not more overall as obviously the renter had to pay the rent but more in their pocket?

Maybe i misunderstood

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