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Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 11:44

There is an article in the Times about the current school attendance crisis. It cannot be overstated how awful the attendance crisis is. Pupils, particularly disadvantaged pupils, are staying away from school in much larger numbers, and for more days than before covid.

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

It blames parents for keeping their children home when they have a minor illness or are slightly anxious about school.

It quotes Bridget Phillipson, Shadow Education Secretary as saying "If I were secretary of state, I’d be sending a very clear message to parents that every day at school matters, and that irresponsible parents who don’t care about sending their kids to school are harming other kids’ life chances, not just their own"

(Whereas current Education Secretary Gillian) "Keegan will expand a programme that gives children skipping school an attendance mentor who could drive or walk youngsters from their home to school in the morning or negotiate with head teachers on their behalf. She said: “Persistent absence is a hangover from the pandemic affecting schools around the world. Schools and the government cannot do this alone.

“Families play a big part in attendance and parents have a legal duty to make sure their children are at school. I know it can be hard to get children out of the door, especially when they are feeling a bit anxious or have a mild cough or cold, so we must rebuild the social contract between parents and schools and make sure everyone plays their part.”

While lockdowns are brought up, what is not mentioned is the utter state schools were in between lockdowns and after lockdowns. Children were being supervised in halls rather than being taught due to lack of teachers who were ill (and this is still happening now due to inability to recruit). Lack of teachers meaning that kids get endless cover which can be largely a waste of time. Children who are anxious about attending school are expected to get on with it while teachers who are unable to cope with the poor behaviour of students are signed off with stress. The experience of children in schools during and since covid can be extraordinarily shit.

Attendance is much lower in pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds. Child poverty is not mentioned - I was reading about a child who couldn't attend school because her mother needed to use the one pair of shoes they shared. Other children are needed to look after younger siblings while parents work because they can't afford childcare. How will this be solved by sending a car around?

But we also know that schools in disadvantaged areas are more likely to struggle to hire staff. What is the point in a child attending school when they don't have teachers? How will Keegan and Phillipson argue that one?

This bit is the most worrying:

"A Labour government, Phillipson said, would place more emphasis on absenteeism as part of the Ofsted inspection framework, with schools compelled to produce an annual report on attendance, off-rolling (removing a pupil without using a permanent exclusion) and safeguarding. Schools are required to submit weekly attendance records to the Department for Education but absenteeism does not have its own Ofsted criteria, instead falling under a broader category of “behaviour and attitudes”.
These reports would affect the Ofsted rating given to schools, which would also take into account the progress they have made in shrinking the attainment gap between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent peers"

Linking an Ofsted grading to attendance will just doom schools in disadvantaged areas to low Ofsted grades at a time when Ofsted had just started to recognise that grading a school based on disadvantage was a bad idea.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

Bridget Phillipson: Parents must save lockdown’s lost generation

The shadow education secretary takes aim at absenteeism as a poll reveals that one in four parents don’t think their child has to go to school each day

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

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withthischoice · 07/01/2024 11:54

covid was 3 years ago

there does come a point where this can’t be used as an excuse anymore surely?

TeenDivided · 07/01/2024 12:01

withthischoice · 07/01/2024 11:54

covid was 3 years ago

there does come a point where this can’t be used as an excuse anymore surely?

Excuse or reason?

BoohooWoohoo · 07/01/2024 12:04

My child has poor attendance because he’s on NHS waiting lists to see specialists. He was referred last July and has a first appointment this June. Until then he can only attend school when he’s well because I don’t have private health insurance

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 12:04

withthischoice · 07/01/2024 11:54

covid was 3 years ago

there does come a point where this can’t be used as an excuse anymore surely?

Covid lockdowns were 3 years ago and fuck-all was done to help children recover from the impacts. What is also not acknowledged is the impact of children catching covid on attendance. A £15 billion recovery programme was proposed and rejected. The only thing implemented was an academic tutoring programme which was a complete failure because of a govt procurement scandal.

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DragonFly98 · 07/01/2024 12:05

The problem is in the schools not in the homes. EBSA for example is a school problem not a parental problem.

SoIRejoined · 07/01/2024 12:06

Both my children struggle to attend, we are managing to maintain their attendance at an ok level, but this has involved a phenomenal effort on my part. The key to my kids attending has been getting 1:1 support in place for one and securing a taxi to school for the other - having a third party turning up at the door makes it much easier to get him out then if it was me doing it.

Of course these are both v expensive, and schools/councils can't afford to do this for all kids struggling to attend.

We have huge numbers of children with SEN and mental health issues and the school system we have just isn't suitable for meeting their needs, sooner or later this will have to be recognised.

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 12:06

BoohooWoohoo · 07/01/2024 12:04

My child has poor attendance because he’s on NHS waiting lists to see specialists. He was referred last July and has a first appointment this June. Until then he can only attend school when he’s well because I don’t have private health insurance

Yes, the falling apart of NHS services has had an impact on school attendance, as has the falling apart of SEN provision and mental health support.

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Disguisedasnormal · 07/01/2024 12:07

If my child is too anxious for school there is a reason. If my child is unwell by my standards - not what is dictated by the school/nhs (and their rules often support the transmission of certain illnesses eg hand foot and mouth) then I’ll keep them off.

There are huge amounts of children unable to access education due to mental health issues and this is just encouraging parental blame - I’ve seen the recent Dfe ‘adverts’ with smiling children and slogans along the lines of ‘this morning she was worried’ or something and ‘look at her now’ (yes she probably is masking 😵‍💫).

What needs to happen is these ridiculous targets need to be abolished and we need to start valuing individuals and accepting everyone has different limitations and making sure children learn to look after themselves not just push through anything to meet the needs, or targets of adults.

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

Disguisedasnormal · 07/01/2024 12:09

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

Exactly.

Redlarge · 07/01/2024 12:10

I do hear it a lot from certain other parents at the school. One keeps her child off a lot because they were tired (never went to sleep till 12) and she repeats.. its my child, its ok when the teachers wanted to strike wasn't it 😐

PiggieWig · 07/01/2024 12:10

The attendance crisis and the mental health crisis are inextricably linked. How are pupils who struggle going to be supported, beyond being given a lift?
Would a child with physical disabilities be driven to the door and told to get on with it, even if there were eg stairs they couldn’t physically walk up?

It’s true, there is a huge crisis in education which is failing our youngsters. But until young people’s needs are supported it can’t all be put on the parents.

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 12:11

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

Well when school didn't contact my children for the best part of the year, other than weekly generic emails about how the teachers were enjoying baking /paddle boarding/gardening... Meanwhile I was doing my job full time and homeschooling/paying a tutor... Damn right the contract was broken.

FrippEnos · 07/01/2024 12:11

Disguisedasnormal · 07/01/2024 12:09

Exactly.

Except that inset days have never been part of the school year. And bank holidays are down to the government, and you could argue that strikes are as well.

MrsHamlet · 07/01/2024 12:11

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

INSET days are taken outside of the 190 days which schools have to provide.
In the case of new bank holidays, they were a variation for that year to reduce the provision to 189.
As for strike days, because schools are appallingly badly funded.

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 12:12

Plus all the stupid awards for attendance mean my children with underlying conditions get more illness because other parents send their children in when they are contagious

Dibblydoodahdah · 07/01/2024 12:15

Bridget Phillipson spoke about this on the Laura Kuenssberg program this morning. Phillipson was going on about parents taking their children out of schools for holidays. Can’t say that I was particularly impressed and I have never taken mine out of school for a holiday. I was hoping we’d hear more about teacher retention, reducing class sizes, rebuilding/repairing schools etc…instead it seemed like just wanted to blame parents.

muchalover · 07/01/2024 12:15

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

So you don't want upskilled staff "inset days", or teachers who are paid a decent wage for the amount of work, training, extra curriculum roles they do 'strikes'. They should suck up crumbling schools, no resources, poor mental health and low wages right?

We had a couple of extra bank holidays which neither teachers nor school kids should have but we, as workers should?

Part of the reason is that parents don't support schools, education or teachers, clearly.

Disguisedasnormal · 07/01/2024 12:16

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 12:12

Plus all the stupid awards for attendance mean my children with underlying conditions get more illness because other parents send their children in when they are contagious

Yes it’s neglectful to send children in when unwell and then counterproductive as others are then off because they’ve caught things it’s out of control now

soupfiend · 07/01/2024 12:17

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

Exactly this and the schools shutting for the majority of children over covid

I cant remember if it was this forum or some other but I said repeatedly during that period that schools would rue the day when they fought to not open because the impact would be an even less respect for school attendance, both by pupils and parents.

The battle is lost Im afraid

When you add to that the impact that covid lockdowns had emotionally and psychologically on children, huge levels of anxiety, some of that was driven by society, some by parents perhaps, but either way, this will now be impacting on school anxiety and general resilience.

We're running headlong into a society where people are quite happy to have automated this and that, less human interaction and then we wonder why children are frightened to engage with others around them at school.

SoIRejoined · 07/01/2024 12:17

For me what broke the contract with school was being told I had to force my son in every day even though he was suicidal, and that I would be prosecuted for non attendance unless I had a note from a CAMHS consultant, when they knew we could not get this because CAMHS has a two year wait for urgent referrals (and I believe a 5 year wait for non urgent.)

unwrittenredbook · 07/01/2024 12:17

I'm sure covid is partly responsible for the attendance issues.

However a HUGE part of the current attendance problem (and many others in schools) is SEND identification, support and provision. Or rather, lack of it.

The current SEND support shitshow is failing the children, their families, teachers and the schools.

I work with families of children with SEND. Many of the children are out of school, or struggle to attend. At least half of my caseload, probably closer to 70%.

Not ONE of the parents wants their child to be out of school. They're desperate for the opposite. They fight every day for their child to be in education.

It's not a case of won't attend, it's a case of can't. These children are either on roll at schools who can't (or won't in some cases) meet their needs. Some could do perfectly well in mainstream IF their current schools changed their mindsets, bucked up, spent the funding that they're given properly and did what they are supposed to do to support the child. Other schools try desperately hard to do all of that but are still unable to help the child as they need because the child needs a special school place and there are none.

Until the government funds SEND properly so that schools are able to do what they need for every child AND sets about a culture change in those individual schools whose attitudes to these families is that they're a problem to be dealt with or gotten rid of by any means necessary then we're not going to see any improvement. The parents cannot being about these changes.

I'm absolutely sure that there are some irresponsible parents who don't give a shit about their children's attendance. There always has been. I'm equally sure that there is a huge number of families who want to see their children in schools, happy and settled, but for whom this is currently impossible.

It's a shambles and I'm sick of hearing about it being the parents fault. The system is broken. Families and teachers didn't break it and nor can they alone fix it.

NovemberRainy · 07/01/2024 12:18

@forcedfun that’s it, exactly how I feel. I’m lucky that my kids are happy to go in, so attendance is good… but it annoys me
when they want evidence of a hospital
appt etc or close the school for an inane reason (parents eve in the school day anyone?) and if I can get a cheap weekend away of course I’ll take them out on a Friday. I was never like this and never thought I would be… and I think I’m one of the stricter parents!

Disguisedasnormal · 07/01/2024 12:18

SoIRejoined · 07/01/2024 12:17

For me what broke the contract with school was being told I had to force my son in every day even though he was suicidal, and that I would be prosecuted for non attendance unless I had a note from a CAMHS consultant, when they knew we could not get this because CAMHS has a two year wait for urgent referrals (and I believe a 5 year wait for non urgent.)

And yet schools have sympathy and understanding when Ofsted cause teachers to suffer with their mental health….. when it comes to pupils though they just have to get on with it and put up …

Nineteendays · 07/01/2024 12:20

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 12:11

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

Well when school didn't contact my children for the best part of the year, other than weekly generic emails about how the teachers were enjoying baking /paddle boarding/gardening... Meanwhile I was doing my job full time and homeschooling/paying a tutor... Damn right the contract was broken.

Sounds like a terrible school. Teachers were teaching (in person and/or virtually) in my kids school not out paddle boarding.