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So it turns out most people prefer Metric measurements after all. And they will stay

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cakeorwine · 27/12/2023 07:05

Metric measurement rules to stay after Brexit review - BBC News

The rules were initially copied over after Brexit, but Boris Johnson's government subsequently announced they would be reviewed as part of a plans to "capitalise on the benefits of Brexit".
The then-prime minister pledged to change the rules ahead of the 2019 election, calling imperial measurements an "ancient liberty" and adding he saw "no reason why people should be prosecuted" for using them.
But the government has now said it will not change the rules, after 98.7% of respondents to a consultation favoured using metric as the main measurement unit for sales, as now, or as the only unit.

We will however be able to buy wine in pint sized bottles so I guess that will be the headline elsewhere.

Pints of wine will soon hit Britain's shelves in post-Brexit win | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

I am glad that metric is going to stay as the main measurement.

Woman buying vegetables at a market

Metric measurement rules to stay after Brexit review

But the government has announced it will move away from EU-era rules on wine bottle sizes in shops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075

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Schneekugel · 27/12/2023 08:07

What a waste of time, money, energy and effort for the government to even think about this. I'm sure they could have found some real work to do.

PuttingDownRoots · 27/12/2023 08:07

I do bake cakes in imperial... simply because my grandmother taught me a ratio of eggs to flour etc for a sponge and its nonsense in metric.

HappilyContentTheseDays · 27/12/2023 08:08

Measurements seem to correlate with age and education.
My late mother only used imperial and Fahrenheit for temperatures.

I use litres for wine but pints for milk - what the hell is a pint of wine?? I know what 1lb of potatoes looks like and measure my ingredients out for cooking in lbs and ounces.....no idea what 165g of flour is and my recipes always go wrong in metric. But when I measure out fabric, I know exactly what 1 metre of fabric looks like, and use metres.
When I do DIY around the house I can use ft and inches or cms interchangeably (but not in the same project, obviously) - furniture measurements seem to come in both in the UK. But for weighing myself, I know how many stones and pounds I should be and what constitutes 'overweight', I can't do it in metric....same with height for my BMI.

My children use metric almost exclusively, imperial was never taught at their school. My own generation is rather mixed up but schooling changes things irrevocably in my opinion, and so I can't see it moving back to imperial really.

SinnerBoy · 27/12/2023 08:13

HappilyContentTheseDays· Today 08:08

no idea what 165g of flour is

About five and a half oz. What on Earth needs 5.5 oz?

Silverbirchtwo · 27/12/2023 08:17

I was taught imperial in school, had to use imperial and metric in University doing sciences, that was a nightmare the imperial scientific measurements poundals, pound force, tons, then tonnes, newtons, etc, etc. It made things really difficult. I now tend to use metric for work, but curtains in yards, flour in pounds, height of person feet and inches. My DD is also now a bit split, she was taught only metric, but because I tend to use imperial at home she does use that too. I can pretty readily approximately convert simple imperial to metric if necessary.

Hayliebells · 27/12/2023 08:18

I cannot believe there was actually a consultation on this. And a civil servant somewhere paid to write up the report. Haven’t we got enough actual issues for the government to be dealing with?

EBearhug · 27/12/2023 08:20

I was taught metric, but am pretty much bilingual. However there are only 3 countries in the world thst use imperial and it would be daft to make it four.

Silverbirchtwo · 27/12/2023 08:21

EBearhug · 27/12/2023 08:20

I was taught metric, but am pretty much bilingual. However there are only 3 countries in the world thst use imperial and it would be daft to make it four.

Mind you one of those is the US, although their imperial is slightly different from ours!

DappledThings · 27/12/2023 08:24

Ppl’s height and weight are frequently quoted in Imperial, I don’t know anybody who says they are 1.83 metres tall. Personally I use both and Fahrenheit.
I've never used Fahrenheit in my life. It means nothing to me. Imperial for height I have a sense of but don't use, I'm 165 cm myself. Don't know what that is in feet and inches.

Weight in Imperial I don't understand at all. If someone says their weight in stones or pounds I have no idea if that's anywhere near healthy. I only understand Kg.

I'm mid-40s, my parents are 70s and the same. They find all Imperial measurements to be embarrassingly old-fashioned and would never use them. They use Km for driving distance too.

ruby1957 · 27/12/2023 08:25

Hayliebells · 27/12/2023 08:18

I cannot believe there was actually a consultation on this. And a civil servant somewhere paid to write up the report. Haven’t we got enough actual issues for the government to be dealing with?

I agree - one cannot take any proof from a consultation which was only partaken by to the very very small number who were consulted - or consulted via facebook!
Those who whinge/dislike can use whatever they like

Squirrelsnut · 27/12/2023 08:26

Clawdy · 27/12/2023 07:43

I always say pint of milk, walking two miles, baby weighs seven pounds, someone is six feet tall.....just me?

Me too. But I have no feelings about what other people do.

Hijinks75 · 27/12/2023 08:28

I know I’m of a certain age, but honestly if someone says they are 75 kg or 1.7m tall for example, I have absolutely no idea how tall or heavy they are

StragglyTinsel · 27/12/2023 08:33

Absolutely no one wants wine to come in pints. They really have to scrape the barrel to find a benefit of brexit.

I just talk about milk. Not pints of milk. I’d never buy a single pint anyway - that would last 2 minutes in this house.

I don’t care what other people do.

Lotrehin · 27/12/2023 08:42

Reading this I've just realised that I have a pretty hazy grip on what many given measurements look like/feel like. It was all a bit of a mish-mash when I was growing up and it's remained a mish-mash in my head. Some things I do in imperial, some in metric, no real rhyme or reason, and I struggle to convert between the two or know how two types with differing amounts relate to each other.

I wish we'd gone either one way or the other.

I've got an idea that how much a billion is has changed but don't remember specifically being told it had.

As far as pints go, according to Today although we will be able to buy pints of champagne and sparkling wine, we have to import the necessary sized bottles so we're unlikely to be making much in these units.

Wheeeeee · 27/12/2023 08:47

Is anyone else just hearing Nessa? "I'll have a pint...of wine"

AnImaginaryCat · 27/12/2023 08:58

DappledThings · 27/12/2023 08:24

Ppl’s height and weight are frequently quoted in Imperial, I don’t know anybody who says they are 1.83 metres tall. Personally I use both and Fahrenheit.
I've never used Fahrenheit in my life. It means nothing to me. Imperial for height I have a sense of but don't use, I'm 165 cm myself. Don't know what that is in feet and inches.

Weight in Imperial I don't understand at all. If someone says their weight in stones or pounds I have no idea if that's anywhere near healthy. I only understand Kg.

I'm mid-40s, my parents are 70s and the same. They find all Imperial measurements to be embarrassingly old-fashioned and would never use them. They use Km for driving distance too.

It would be interesting to know if this is unusual or standard for your age group. I'm late 40s and clueless about height in cm and weight in kg.

I know my children (late teens anf early 20s) don't get feet and inches or stones but not cor across anyone my age (or close to it) that doesn't.

Cappuccinfortwo · 27/12/2023 09:05

Hijinks75 · 27/12/2023 08:28

I know I’m of a certain age, but honestly if someone says they are 75 kg or 1.7m tall for example, I have absolutely no idea how tall or heavy they are

I'm in my fifties and only use metric. I have no idea about imperial height and weight!

Cappuccinfortwo · 27/12/2023 09:05

I also never learnt Imperial at school.

Tumbleweed101 · 27/12/2023 09:07

I was taught metric in school and learned imperial from my family growing up. I was one of the transition generation. I have a feel for a mile rather than Km but I measure in cm, m for smaller things. I prefer a pint of milk but understand a litre of fizzy drink.

Anyone younger than me will understand metric more than imperial.

Cappuccinfortwo · 27/12/2023 09:07

(And only found out recently that a foot is dmaller than a yard - or is it??? 😆)

PuttingDownRoots · 27/12/2023 09:09

Cappuccinfortwo · 27/12/2023 09:07

(And only found out recently that a foot is dmaller than a yard - or is it??? 😆)

1 yard is 3 feet (90ish cm)
1 foot is 12 inches (30ish cm)

puncheur · 27/12/2023 09:12

AnImaginaryCat · 27/12/2023 08:58

It would be interesting to know if this is unusual or standard for your age group. I'm late 40s and clueless about height in cm and weight in kg.

I know my children (late teens anf early 20s) don't get feet and inches or stones but not cor across anyone my age (or close to it) that doesn't.

Younger people, especially those who are into sport and fitness all use kg for body weight in my experience. I’m heavily involved in sports coaching and everything is metric for body weight and height. And distances are all in m and km. I use miles when driving (as that is what the signs and limits are in so makes sense), but km when hiking, running or cycling.

DappledThings · 27/12/2023 09:12

AnImaginaryCat · 27/12/2023 08:58

It would be interesting to know if this is unusual or standard for your age group. I'm late 40s and clueless about height in cm and weight in kg.

I know my children (late teens anf early 20s) don't get feet and inches or stones but not cor across anyone my age (or close to it) that doesn't.

I'd say more of my contemporaries use Imperial for height and weight which I find bizarre. It's just so antiquated.

Nobody I know uses Farenheit. That's pretty much 19th century.

puncheur · 27/12/2023 09:17

@DappledThings my grandparents used Fahrenheit. My parents (in their 80s) use Celsius. As everything from the weather forecast to oven temperatures are in Celsius I’m not sure why anyone would still use Fahrenheit and continually have to convert temperatures.

MintJulia · 27/12/2023 09:19

I really can't get too fussed about any of this. I use both interchangeably without issue.

lb & oz if using an old cookbook, gm & ml if a newer one. Or cups/half cups if using an aussie recipe.It makes no difference at all.

I use lb & st for human weight but can convert to kilos if needed.

I drive miles but run 5k or 10k.

Every set of scales, tape measure & car I have owned offers both, so why does anyone get so adamant about it.

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