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Zopiclone help

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Whatintheworldgirl · 15/12/2023 15:19

I've been on zopiclone 3.75mg for about 4 weeks. Doctor recommended upping to 7.5mg(traditional adult dose) worried about side effects. Surely if I'm okay with the smaller I should be okay with double? Experience appreciated

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therealcookiemonster · 16/12/2023 19:05

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/12/2023 23:35

Why? I get 2 nights on and then one night without. In the US it’s prescribed much more widely than in U.K. Why would he go against current guidelines? I’d tried everything else including quetiapine. It was a end case scenario. And l take a tiny dose.

.3 different psychs have told me it’s not that addictive.

Edited

the US has serious drug overprescribing issues which have caused an epidemic of addiction so really not a good example. the way the clinicians are paid and the overall healthcare model has led to this situation.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/12/2023 19:08

therealcookiemonster · 16/12/2023 19:05

the US has serious drug overprescribing issues which have caused an epidemic of addiction so really not a good example. the way the clinicians are paid and the overall healthcare model has led to this situation.

But there is an argument that Britain is overcatious and it’s not the terrible evil addictive thing that it’s portrayed to be.

RMNofTikTok · 16/12/2023 19:09

But there is an argument that Britain is overcatious and it’s not the terrible evil addictive thing that it’s portrayed to be.

Trust me, as a z drug, it is. I spent many years detoxing addicts off it.

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therealcookiemonster · 16/12/2023 19:15

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/12/2023 19:08

But there is an argument that Britain is overcatious and it’s not the terrible evil addictive thing that it’s portrayed to be.

there is no argument that Britain is 'overcautious', except maybe social perception in the US where social welfare and free healthcare are perceived incredibly negatively. it is certainly not a view expressed in academic literature. whereas the drug epidemic in the US, overuse of investigations and interventions (leading to harm) is well documented and I don't mean just in the use of benzodiazepines. and addiction and dependence are not the only problems with benzodiazepines.

ps I regularly prescribe and give benzodiazepines, opioid and sedatives as an anaesthetist/icu doc who has also worked in chronic pain. so i am not 'against' them in the right context.

user284246975787632445 · 16/12/2023 19:34

Thistlelass · 15/12/2023 22:41

It is highly addictive and I am very surprised you seem to have an ongoing prescription. I have mental illness and my sleep is terrible. I am allowed no more than 7 tablets per calendar month.
Perhaps a referral to appropriate services to address the trauma issue would be better.

Trauma can take years to treat with therapy and even then it's not successful for everyone. It also requires people to have been stabilised first.

Hardly helpful as a response to an immediate problem.

user284246975787632445 · 16/12/2023 19:39

whichwaytohome · 15/12/2023 15:35

I'm really surprised you've been given it long term. I've had to take it after months of insomnia, and have friends who were given it due to MH problems too, I've only ever known it be given for two weeks max. Then they tend to try other drugs (promethazine/quetiapine/mirtazapine). It's very addictive and like diazepam is only usually prescribed for the smallest dose, for the minimum time.

I wouldn't try going up (unless you plan on stopping within a week), as you'll become tolerant to that too.

Yes because antipsychotics like quetiapine are completely unproblematic long term. WTF.

All of those drugs are addictive and can cause problems. Discontinuation symptoms from quetiapine are horrendous.

rainbowbee · 16/12/2023 19:45

I had Zopiclone for a while years ago. It doesn't work well on a full stomach. You also do tend to build up a tolerance.

whichwaytohome · 16/12/2023 19:57

@user284246975787632445 didn't say they weren't problematic, I said that they tend to be used for long-term insomnia, instead of Zopiclone and I stand by that, because it is true. GPs can prescribe mirtazapine, but quetiapine has to prescribed by a psychiatrist first (which may be why they are more keen to prescribe them). They are used off label in tiny doses (25mg), which doesn't carry the same side effects and is less of a problem to stop (I take that dose very occasionally and have no problems stopping). I used to take a high dose of quetiapine, but it did wreck me and was difficult to get off of, but a small dose has been fine.

RedChester · 16/12/2023 20:02

Hi OP, I see that very few have actually answered your question.

I take 7.5 tablets no more than twice a week when my sleep is very bad. I find it is very effective, I get a brilliant sleep, with no side effects.

I’m very grateful for them. I hope you get some rest.

Thistlelass · 16/12/2023 20:03

user284246975787632445 · 16/12/2023 19:34

Trauma can take years to treat with therapy and even then it's not successful for everyone. It also requires people to have been stabilised first.

Hardly helpful as a response to an immediate problem.

I don"t disagree trauma can be hard to address. This.poster had been drugged up for past 6/7 months. That is not dealing with the trauma and is only prolonging the difficulties head on.

Iwasfeelingepic · 16/12/2023 20:23

I have beem taking 7.5mg daily of zopiclone for 4.5 years. If I miss a night, usually when I forget to order them in time, I don't sleep as well, but apart from that I have always found them helpful for sleeping.

salcombebabe · 04/03/2024 18:18

I suffer from chronic insomnia and has been given a variable repeat prescription for Zopiclone. I take 2 a week as if I take anymore they just don’t work for me.

billyt · 05/03/2024 16:13

I was prescribed 3.75mg last week but was advised I could take 7.5mg if needed.

But GP only prescribed 10 tablets and to go back if further treatment needed.

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