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Anyone fancy a little dip into the UK's first vegetarian cookery book from 1831? It's quite good fun!

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:37

I collect little antiques that pique my interest and I spotted this recently so bought it.

It's written by Martha Brotherton in 1831. She was the wife of Joseph Brotherton who was MP for Salford and a founding member of the vegetarian society.

It's called 'Vegetable cookery, with an introduction, recommending abstinence from animal food and intoxicating liquors by a Lady'

I particular enjoyed a paragraph stating not to be concerned that animals will rear up and murder is all of we don't kill them and leave them free to roam 😀

Anyone fancy a little dip into the UK's first vegetarian cookery book from 1831? It's quite good fun!
Anyone fancy a little dip into the UK's first vegetarian cookery book from 1831? It's quite good fun!
Anyone fancy a little dip into the UK's first vegetarian cookery book from 1831? It's quite good fun!
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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:38

'food has an effect on the disposition is clearly evinced by the different tempers of the carnivorous and herbivorous animals ; the former are savage, ferocious creatures, that prowl out at night and seek to destroy all within their reach; the others wander tranquilly on the plains in herds, enjoy themselves in the day, and manifest their innocence by various playful sports with each other. The temper of the carnivorous animal, however, is materially altered by the kind of food which is given to it. A dog, for instance, which is fed on raw flesh, is much more fierce and rapacious than one that feeds on milk or vegetable substances. And the ferocity even of a lion has been greatly abated, and he has been rendered tractable, by being fed on vegetable food.

The same effect of aliment is discernible among the different nations of men. ‘The Tartars,’ says Sir John Sinclair, ‘ who live principally on animal food, possess a degree of ferocity of mind and fierceness of character which forms the leading features of all carnivorous animals. On the other hand, a vegetable diet gives to the disposition, as it appears in the Brahmin and Gentoo, a mildness of feeling directly the reverse of the former.’

There can be no doubt, therefore, that the practice of slaughtering and devouring animals has a tendency to strengthen in us a murderous disposition and brutal nature, rendering us insensible to pity, and inducing us more easily to sanction the murdering of our fellow men. On the contrary, vegetable food clears the intellect, preserves innoccncy, increases compassion and love.

We shall now proceed to show that a vegetable diet ought to be preferred from a principle of humanity. It cannot be doubted that there exists within us by nature a repugnance to the spilling of blood ; and vve cannot even see an animal tortured, much less killed, without feelings of compassion : this feeling of the heart, implanted by the Deity, should be considered as a guide to human conduct.

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Noshowlomo · 12/12/2023 16:39

I want to see! How fascinating

CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:40

If we eat animals it strengthens our murderous disposition apparently GrinGrin

And I do happen to be vegan but I believe it people eating what they fancy and I prepare meat and fish for my family ... beginning to wonder now if this is why they're so .. rapacious Grin

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:41

She writes how there is a UK population of 12 million in 1831 which surprised me - I thought it was less

And the book contains the first time Bakewell pudding was ever heard of. It sounds disgusting though ... contains potatoes

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SusanSHelit · 12/12/2023 16:42

I'm a vegetarian and I can't really argue with this though!

It cannot be doubted that there exists within us by nature a repugnance to the spilling of blood ; and vve cannot even see an animal tortured, much less killed, without feelings of compassion

GarlicMaybeNot · 12/12/2023 16:42

Lions, being obligate carnivores, would certainly be rendered 'tractable' (weak & sickly) by a vegetarian diet 😂

What a lovely find, OP, and thank you for typing out a long passage!

CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:44

@SusanSHelit almost profound isn't it?

And this was a time when people categorically did not waste food and meat featured very heavily in everyone's diets so it's fascinating that they were considering meat free for health.

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:45

Hot ginger beer posset anyone?

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:46

'' We need not, however, at present be under any apprehension in this country of being eaten up by cows and sheep, for there is sufficient land for the support of a great increase both of men and animals. England alone, which now contains only about twelve millions of inhabitants, is capable of producing, by spade husbandry, a sufficiency of nutritive vegetables for the support of one hundred and twenty millions of human beings : but if every one must consume a pound of flesh a day, there is scarcely enough of land for the existing population : we are therefore more likely to suffer from famine under the present system than we should be if the practice of abstaining from animal food were more generally adopted. To those who ask what would be the consequence if the vegetable system should be universally adopted — this must be the answer : It is evident that, by imitating those of the golden age, we should be free and happy. There would be fewer diseases, less crime, no wars, no slavery ; but universal peace and good will would be established among men.

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furtivetussling · 12/12/2023 16:46

Maybe meat featured fairly heavily in the diets of the well-off, but perhaps not for the majority of the parish.

I'm looking forward to a recipe or two from this book now...

BigBundleOfFluff · 12/12/2023 16:46

That's absolutely fascinating, thank you for posting. I think I'll do some googling on it tonight!

CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:47

@furtivetussling yes you could be right actually! Meat will have been very expensive

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:48

@BigBundleOfFluff do! It's all out there and so fascinating. The book I bought is the 4th edition so it was clearly popular back in the day.

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:49

My book appeared to have belonged to Annie P .. can't make it out

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DontListenToWhatYouveConsumed · 12/12/2023 16:49

That's quite a find, thank you for sharing.
Could I ask for a clearer photo of the Parkin recipe please? I have made (& enjoyed) Parkin before and I'd like to compare recipes.

CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:50

@DontListenToWhatYouveConsumed I have heard of Parkin but I thought it was like a brittle treacle toffee?

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Pastlast · 12/12/2023 16:51

Wow so interesting. I have some pre war veggie cookbooks from my grandad and love the quirky recipes they contain. ‘Mock crab’ anyone?

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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:49

My book appeared to have belonged to Annie P .. can't make it out

Looks like Pennicard to me. My mum had a friend with that surname. I don't know how common it is.

MagpiePi · 12/12/2023 17:00

I have a book called ‘365 Luncheon Dishes: A Luncheon Dish for every day in the year’ which is similar, although it doesn’t have a publication date.

I love that things like quantities, oven temperatures and cooking times are quite vague sometimes.

CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 17:05

@MagpiePi that sounds great!

In Martha's book you're putting things either on or in the fire - so results must have been variable

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Taurusandvirgo · 12/12/2023 17:26

Fascinating OP thanks for sharing. The name is Penne--- I can't make our the rest because of the angle of the pic

DaveWatts · 12/12/2023 17:38

This is amazing! I am fascinated by historical cooking and have a little collection of antique cookbooks including this lovely handwritten one which dates back to the 1820s.

Anyone fancy a little dip into the UK's first vegetarian cookery book from 1831? It's quite good fun!
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CherryJones1 · 12/12/2023 16:45

Hot ginger beer posset anyone?

Sounds vile. I do like the sound of the parkin although 1.5 ounces of allspice sounds a lot.

Fifthtimelucky · 12/12/2023 17:48

Not compared to the amount of flour and oatmeal (3 pounds combined).

They obviously baked in bulk in those days!

Spottywombat · 12/12/2023 17:54

Baked in bulk because it took a lot of fuel to fire up the oven, so did large quantities and then different things in sequence.

If you fire up a big woodfired bread oven now, people do the same thing.

So bread first, then roasts, pies, cakes, biscuits and lastly things like meringue as it cools.

My mum is 90 and talks about this as her mum baked like this.