How to ask for a much higher salary?

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Please can anyone help?

I have been made redundant from my role (part time, min wage, admin) due to a takeover of the company I provide admin support to.

The new company are said to be looking for someone to manage the day to day running of the business. At first look I wouldn't be a candidate, however, I have been doing the management role for the best part of the year and so they have agreed to meet with me in a few weeks.

I am confident in my ability and can demonstrate my qualities and value to them in the management role, I have been successfully doing both my admin duties and the management role. I do not know if they intend to employ admin support or just a manager.

My issue is talking money. I don't know how the pay bands/scales work, what level I could expect, whether I should be asking for bonus incentives for good performance etc. I don't want to come across as stupid in this area and I do not want to undersell myself. This is a casual chat, no role has been advertised yet. It isn't an interview. How do I go about talking money and salary in these circumstances?

Appreciate any advice. Thanks

You don't mention pay at all in the first interview. You focus on them 100%. Ask what they are seeking from management during this transitional period and then give thoughtful replies as to how you would run a department or plan a project to ensure they got those results in a timely manner.

Your goal post interview is to have them slavering like dogs thinking; We MUST get her back.

Talk money only once an offer comes in. First say you are extremely interested because you really want to (mention some things they desperately need) Then ask what the pay, perks and bonus structure for this role look like. If it's lower than you hoped, ask if there is any wiggle room in that. If it is way higher than you expected, say, that sounds promising. I would be looking towards the higher end/upper half of that pay scale and in return I offer you a smooth transition as I know the current (etc - reiterate why you are so desirable) then see what they say.

if you want something, always phrase it as a question. So if they come back and say, 'We can only offer you the lower/starting end of the pay scale, you say, 'And could that be reviewed after six months, based on performance and targets being met? Or 'Would there be scope for a performance related bonus to be written into the contract once I've proved my value to you?'

{ractise saying these in a really calm neutral voice as if you are just data gathering. No greed, cheekiness, nerves creeping in.

Fantastic. Thank you so much. That is exactly what I was looking for. I have a few weeks to practice that now!

Ignore the previous poster. You need to be asking what their salary bandings are for this role. It sounds like an Operations Management post which typically pays about £40-50k. You ask for it by saying you've looked into your experience and other similar roles and respectfully ask for a salary in that range.

Ignore Name235. The first person to name a concrete figure is always at a disadvantage in negotiations.

Get them to say what they're thinking, after you've got them to think of you as the ideal candidate. And then negotiate from there.

That's what I suggested doing

I'm glad that convincing them I'm the ideal candidate comes first, I'm much more comfortable with that than with the salary negotiation.

It's not that I'm shy it's simply that I haven't needed to negotiate terms or contracts before.