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A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens

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LadyScribe · 19/11/2023 21:55

Two Questions please:
My favourite film is with George C Scott as Scrooge and a multi star cast.
What is your favourite?
In the film Scrooge buys the big turkey as a present to the Cratchit family. Did Dickens write that or was it a goose. I am surprised that in 1843 turkeys were widely available. Anyone with the book to put me right?

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GrandpaFlumpAndHisFlumpet · 21/11/2023 03:35

sashh · 21/11/2023 02:20

OK question for you all, I expect you to answer in unison.

How many ghosts are there in the book?

This is a trick question right?

ScottBakula · 21/11/2023 03:38

I really like Patrick Stewarts version too , the fact that he does it entirely alone with no special effects makes it more gripping.

I am not sure if I have seen Alister Simms version, I will add it to my watch list.

@bruffin @nightinorout , this was a really good modern take on a old favourite.

I would imagine it would be very hard to come up with a new version of Cc now and keep it interesting and not to predictedable . (Iyswim)
I wonder if one set in the future would work.

sashh · 21/11/2023 03:39

GrandpaFlumpAndHisFlumpet · 21/11/2023 03:35

This is a trick question right?

Not a trick, but it is a popular pub quiz question.

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GrandpaFlumpAndHisFlumpet · 21/11/2023 03:45

sashh · 21/11/2023 03:39

Not a trick, but it is a popular pub quiz question.

Four? Unless The Christmas Carol is really a Dickensian version of The Sixth Sense and ive somehow missed the memo that Scrooge js really Bruce Willis and is actually a ghost himself all along. Nothing would surprise me.

hattie43 · 21/11/2023 05:27

Patrick Stewart and Richard E Grant

MotherOfCatBoy · 21/11/2023 08:45

Sorry I did not get back OP but I see you got your answer! I went rummaging for the book I was convinced we had, only to find it was a collection of Dickens Christmas Stories. Which I will now read in December!

Ghosts… 3 including Marley???

sashh · 21/11/2023 09:36

The answer is 4, but most people think there are only three, they forget about Marley.

Pedallleur · 21/11/2023 09:50

Alistair Sim or the Patrick Stewart/Richard E Grant version. Saw Stewart do the book as a one-man show years ago. it was quite stunning.

GalileoHumpkins · 21/11/2023 09:53

Definitely Alastair Sim then The Muppets.
I watched part of a version starring Guy Pearce last year on Disney+, it was terrible.

IHeartGeneHunt · 21/11/2023 09:56

I like them all, but Muppets is the winner obviously.

TurquoiseThings · 21/11/2023 10:00

Spirited! Really good fun version.

TinkerTiger · 21/11/2023 10:02

MotherOfCatBoy · 19/11/2023 22:15

Muppets!!

Not sure but I have the book and can check in the morning….

Yes this one, imagine my shock when I actually read the book and found that the first line was not, in fact, 'The Marleys were dead to begin with' Grin

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/11/2023 10:44

Muppets, obviously 😁

Also like the Pixar cartoon version with Jim Carey (whom I usually can’t stand).

There’s a very old version that I love, Alistair Simm.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 21/11/2023 11:00

I have the muppets version on video - I keep it because this very moving scene is no longer include in the version shown on telly. The whole song has been cut out as apparently some audiences found it too upsetting but I think it’s integral to understanding why Scrooge became the man he was.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r57KXWeXKoY&pp=ygUpd2hlbiBsb3ZlIGlzIGdvbmUgbXVwcGV0cyBjaHJpc3RtYXMgY2Fyb2w%3D

When Love Is Gone WIDESCREEN 1.85:1 - The Muppet Christmas Carol (LaserDisc Transfer)

UPDATED VERSION (24th November 2021): https://youtu.be/iqX7Cs_VaOcThis new upload on my channel has cropped out the black bars at the top and bottom, so it w...

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IHeartGeneHunt · 21/11/2023 11:19

I have the version without the song because I couldn't stand the woman singing Blush

ladymalfoy45 · 21/11/2023 11:26

And Ignorance and Want

beetr00 · 21/11/2023 11:33

@Chocoswirl

That's a most excellent resource. Thank you. Have bookmarked 😊

Paul2023 · 24/12/2023 13:53

The George C Scott version is my best version , I quite like the 1951 version with Alistair Sim too.
George C Scott played Scrooge very well , especially as an American actor. Very good Dickens time English accent.

The Muppets also good , Michael Caine. Still holds up well for kids today.

LadyScribe · 24/12/2023 14:11

What with one thing and another I am just catching up. I have now seen the colourized 1935 Version 'Scrooge' with Seymour Hicks. It is very good it is a clearer print than the b/w. Both are on YouTube.
Last nigh watched the Michael Horden with a young Clive Merrison and Zoe Wannamaker. I think BBC iPlayer.

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Ffsmakeitstop · 24/12/2023 14:46

We've just watched the Alistair Sim version. Absolutely brilliant even when we all know it practically word for word it never gets old.

110APiccadilly · 24/12/2023 14:59

Tygertiger · 20/11/2023 07:38

It’s a turkey. They were in England at that time, but rare/exotic so only for the rich - whereas geese were common, and most pubs had a “goose club” for the locals who could pay a small amount each week and get a goose at Christmas. It would be cooked at the baker’s for a penny fee as poor people didn’t have their own ovens (just a fire which they could cook pots of stew, potatoes etc on).

True story: Dickens dashed ACC off really quickly to get some fast cash as he was broke. He wrote it so quickly he forgot to tie up the Tiny Tim story. It was only when his publisher asked what happens to him that he inserted the famous “and to Tiny Tim, who did NOT die…” line.

I'm pretty sure a "goose club" plays a role in a Sherlock Holmes story - Blue Carbuncle, maybe?

Tygertiger · 24/12/2023 15:08

110APiccadilly · 24/12/2023 14:59

I'm pretty sure a "goose club" plays a role in a Sherlock Holmes story - Blue Carbuncle, maybe?

It does indeed. Henry Baker is a member of his local pub’s goose club which is an important plot-point.

All the Jeremy Brett Holmes episodes are on ITVX, as an aside - essential viewing I’d say, and The Blue Carbuncle is lovely and festive!

Porageeater · 24/12/2023 15:14

I love Alistair Sim’s version waking up on Christmas morning realising he hasn’t missed it. But I will happily watch any version of this story, over and over again.