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HR Help - PT Hols

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PTMon · 17/11/2023 09:38

Can anyone help me understand my holiday entitlement?

Current standard hours 8 hrs per day, 40 hrs per week. Mon - Fri.
25 days per year plus 8 bank holidays (2024)

Changing to 4 days per week but increasing to 8.5 hours Tue-Fri.
Monday will be my non working day.

My HR have worked it out as 26.5 days inclusive. They say 25+8 = 33 days so 4/5ths of entitlement.

In effect I will be working 4.25 days as I will be working 85% and not 80% of my original 40 hours.
I am being penalised for working an extra 2hrs per week. Have I got it wrong?
Thanks.

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ThreeRingCircus · 17/11/2023 09:50

They are correct, if your holidays are worked out in days rather than hours (which it sounds like is the case here) then it doesn't matter how many hours you work those days, a day's leave is a day of your normal working hours.

If you work 8.5 hours a day and have a day of annual leave, you'll still be paid for 8.5 hours worth of work.

The easiest way to think about it is if someone had 25 days leave and worked every day but just the mornings. When they take a day of their leave, they are paid for the hours they'd normally do (half of a working day.) They don't take all their holiday in half days because they only work mornings otherwise they'd have 50 days off a year.

If you don't work Mondays you'll actually benefit and gain leave as you're given an 80% allowance of the 8 bank holidays but most of those fall on a Monday, so won't be taken out of your allowance as it's a day you don't work anyway. You'll just have Good Friday removed out of your allowance of 6.5 days and any other bank holidays that fall on a Tue-Fri, e.g. around Christmas. Monday is usually by far the best day to have off for holiday calculations.

BarbaraofSeville · 17/11/2023 09:52

Your annual leave days are now worth more and you only need to use 4 to take a week off.

But they're right about the calculation.

PTMon · 17/11/2023 10:37

So I'm not penalised for bank holiday Mondays? I'm blaming brain fog!
I'll get 26.5 and use 3 for non Mon bank hols which leaves me with 23.5.

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ThreeRingCircus · 17/11/2023 13:20

PTMon · 17/11/2023 10:37

So I'm not penalised for bank holiday Mondays? I'm blaming brain fog!
I'll get 26.5 and use 3 for non Mon bank hols which leaves me with 23.5.

Yes, so just shy of 6 weeks holiday a year (for your 4 day weeks) which is more than the equivalent for full time workers.

You get 80% of the 8 bank holidays pro rata (so 6.5 days.) As you don't work Mondays you benefit. If you worked Mondays and had Fridays off for example you'd be far worse off holiday wise as you'd need to take every bank holiday Monday out of your allowance and end up eating into more of your leave.

I work in HR and always advise part time workers to have Mondays off if they're able to choose their working days!

burnoutbabe · 17/11/2023 13:59

You should get the same amount of holidays whether you don't work Monday or Friday

You just get more flexibility if when you use them if you pick Monday off normally

I work 2 half days a week. I get 7 days holiday (old allowance plus bank holidays /5) and use 0.5 a day if I want to not work one of my sessions.

I got an extra 0.2 off day for the coronation!
Luckily it was a non working day as it would have a cost me 0.5 to have it off meaning I would be 0.3 "worse off" overall.

PTMon · 17/11/2023 15:16

Brilliant thanks everyone for your help!😊

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dhworry · 17/11/2023 18:16

You don't use anything for the mon bank hols as that's your day off. You are allocated 4/5 of a day al to use whenever you want. But on bh that are your working day they would take the annual leave off.

I work part time my holidays are done in hours . You are slightly missing out

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