Lockerbie

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Anyone else watching this documentary? Can remember that night so clearly. Am sure my fear of flying stems from that horror.

We drove past it on the way to spend Christmas with relatives.
I was 11 at the time and it was horrific.

I was 8 and home was in Edinburgh, my parents had taken us to see the light switch on i. Princes street and we were just walking back after having a hot chocolate at the Sheraton Hotel when there was line of ambulances with lights on going up the the Mound, I’ll never forget my dad saying, who was in the police, that something big must has happened.

He was sent up there the next again day and he still doesn’t talk about the things he saw.

I've just finished watching the documentary with my Mum. She said she always remembers she was plucking geese when it came on the news.
I was at a Christmas party with my Dad at his friends Driving for The Disabled Stables.
I was crying watching that poor mother on the floor at JFK... 😔
I thought Lorraine did an excellent job.

The one I remember wasn’t a direct result of the crash, but a lad who lost his entire family when wreckage crashed onto their house. He killed himself a few years later if I remember rightly.

But these Iran Air and Pan Am flights were similar.

Innocent people on a plane with no defects.

The crew did not do anything wrong.

One moment they are in the air and the next the plane blows up.

Kegworth was initially caused by an engine on fire and then the crew, instead of shutting that engine down, shut down the working engine.

@sashh not just similar but linked. Lockerbie happened as a revenge attack because of the Iran Air attrocity. The book I mentioned has more background.

As you must know there are still multiple theories out there about motives.

TBH having read various reports on Lockerbie and also attended a few briefings ove the years related to the some of the issues the attack highlighted I'll probably pass on the book but thanks for the recommendation.

I actually saw the explosion, I was living in West Cumbria and was driving north towards Carlisle when there was a very bright flash in the sky. Can still remember it quite vividly.

Remember reading about him..so sad. He only survived as was out the house sorting a present for his sister.

His older brother survived as was living away but died few years after and then he died too.

I had just come home from Brownies and it came on the news. We live in another part of rural Scotland and often had RAF flying jets above us. That scared me for a long time.
I feel for all affected. Unfortunately Lockerbie like Dunblane will always bring back one thought when I drive past the sign posts.

Ok I take it back about Lorraine after watching this. I much prefer her as a journalist to her fluffy fake Lorraine show.

I thought it was well done. I can't imagine the trauma the residents went through.

Unbelievable that Emmerdale thought it would be a good idea to use it as a storyline just 5 years later and at the same time of year. Can't believe they got away with that.

A documentary on Lockerbie some years ago on the BBC had some of the locals talk about how some details they were prevented from mentioning. I don't think they were talking about fatalities, more conduct by intelligence agencies on the ground. Wasn't there a D-notice or equivalent put on it?

I read one piece about how Jim Swire, the father of a daughter killed in the disaster, had been 'taken for a ride' both literally and figuratively by two journalists who wanted to know what he knew... this was quite early on, and they looked relieved when he told them, as it wasn't much. This does tend to happen quite a lot, I got this over adult social care and the whole euthanasia of the elderly in care settings via dehydration. Most of the people you talk to - State officials, I mean - turn out to be carrying out surveillance of a kind on you, though some just aren't interested.

From 25th November Sky has a new TV series, it features, among others Jim Swire.

https://news.sky.com/story/fathers-search-for-truth-after-daughter-killed-in-britains-deadliest-terror-attack-13011068

I've never heard this 😧 who was it?

I don't think anyone was, there were various stories at the time about the odd person landing in their seat, standing up and then dyeing. But no proof as far as I am aware.

The actual report on the mechanics/engineering of the attack itself cover survival aspects and basically states it was non-survivable.

There have been stories circulating over the years about a very small passengers/crew being found very very very seriously injured and expiring very shortly after discovery. The accident report is silent on that, I’m not sure how reliable these stories are and I certainly wouldn’t expect any identities to be public knowledge.