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The phrase "No good deed goes unpunished.

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StarryAnise · 11/11/2023 13:45

Inspired by another thread title - but definitely not a TAAT - I was pondering the meaning of this phrase.

I never heard it growing up - in fact I may never have heard until mumsnet - and found it quite unpleasant at first. It seemed to fit with a quite cynical and selfish world view - anti charity, anti do-gooder, anti society, pro individualism.

But I've come to think what it reflects is that fact that when we do "good deeds", deep down we feel on some level we should be rewarded, at least with a bit of gratitude or appreciation. Because we are dealing with human beings in all their flawed irrationality, that doesn't always happen. And kind acts do go wrong, or are not quite what was asked for or needed, and we can end up feeling we did something wrong somehow.

Then because we've given our time and effort for free, it feels deeply unfair to feel criticised for what we tried to do. But it's almost inevitable that there will be minor conflict and issues in any activity involving other people.

It hasn't made me stop volunteering for stuff but it has probably made me more realistic about what to expect when I do!

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Elphame · 11/11/2023 14:04

It's always been in common use where I grew up.

I've always found it true as well! Not that I'm looking for gratitude though but quite often something comes back to bite. A friend made a plate of the most delicious brownies as a contribution to a pot luck. She was publicly lambasted afterwards on FB as one person couldn't eat them as they weren't gluten free.

StarryAnise · 12/11/2023 10:04

Yes, that's exactly an example of what I've realised is pretty inevitable. Did it put her off offering again though?

I can't work out why I never heard it growing up. though I was brought up in a religion where volunteering for good works was absolutely embedded in the culture, so maybe that's why I never heard it and it jars with me so much.

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ManchesterGirl2 · 12/11/2023 10:21

I see it as quite a light-hearted wry comment. Like "oh for God's sake, I was just trying to do something nice, now everything's hard and complicated".

I do think that if used as a general statement about the world, it's pretty depressing and cynical!

Helenahandkart · 12/11/2023 10:31

It’s not about expecting gratitude. It is, as PP pointed out, just a humorous observation about how the best intentions can sometimes come back to bite you.
A very common phrase all my life.

NoraLuka · 12/11/2023 10:36

Yes, it’s when you do something nice that you didn’t have to do and it ends up making things more complicated for you. Like if you offer someone a lift and they ask you to just stop off at the shop for a minute on the way, then end up being in there for ages. It’s not about whether they’re grateful or not.

Elphame · 12/11/2023 11:11

StarryAnise · 12/11/2023 10:04

Yes, that's exactly an example of what I've realised is pretty inevitable. Did it put her off offering again though?

I can't work out why I never heard it growing up. though I was brought up in a religion where volunteering for good works was absolutely embedded in the culture, so maybe that's why I never heard it and it jars with me so much.

Yes. She only makes things now for close friends

beachcomber70 · 12/11/2023 11:29

I'd never heard this phrase until a couple of years ago. I had done something far beyond what anyone would expect to help out a friend who wanted to buy a property [and helped do it up, many, many hours of work].
And I had since suffered constantly since then for doing so by the comments/reactions of the person I helped [who then decided she didn't like the place anyway!] Of course that was my fault....long story, and my own trust stupidity.
Then I heard the saying...and so wish I'd heard it before. Probably wouldn't have believed it though, never thought people could be so nasty until it happened.
Anyway I know now.

CaravaggiosCat · 12/11/2023 11:38

Haha I use this at least once a week at work....

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