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Is it true some couples can only have either all male or all female DC?

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maybemumm · 09/11/2023 18:51

My friend is pregnant and her DP has two daughters from another relationship. She said the baby would be a girl because her DP only makes girls, and it’s just confirmed to be a girl.

Is it true that some couples (men, in particular, as I know it’s men who influence it) can only biologically make either female or male offspring?

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Eggandcresssandwich · 09/11/2023 19:23

As far as I’m aware, there’s no scientific evidence for the theory that some women are only able to carry one sex of baby to term.
There is evidence that some men may produce x & y sperm in differing ratios to 50/50, so there may be a disposition towards one sex over another.

LadyBird1973 · 09/11/2023 19:26

I think it might be possible for some as yet unknown reason.
It's also true that whatever sec your first baby is, there's a slightly higher chance your second will be the same sex. So it's not a definite 50/50 each time.

Cactifly · 09/11/2023 19:29

Yes people might have 8 boys/girls in a row but if you look at people like Michelle Duggar (19 children as well as a stillborn) she has lots of one sex in a row then lots of the other. So if she'd only had the 6 boys in a row, people would say she only has boys, but the daughters either side disprove this. Are there any examples of people with 12+ kids (not unheard of pre-contraception) with all children being the same sex? It seems unlikely.

MargaretThursday · 09/11/2023 19:30

No it isn't.

There are a few chromosome disorders, normally associated with boys where if the foetus is effected by it then it is likely to miscarry. It's unusual, but very occasionally it could be that. We're talking about minuscule numbers.
I think in basic genetics too, that it would have to be the mother being a carrier for the condition which meant boys spontaneously miscarried. Because if the dad had the condition, then he wouldn't be there.

If you have 3 children then the options you have are:
BBB
BBG
BGB
BGG
GGG
GGB
GBG
GBB

So 8 different combinations, 2 of which are all the same. Which means 1/4, or 25% of all families who have 3 dc, will have all the same. So, whereas it could be potentially true, the majority of times it would not be.

modgepodge · 09/11/2023 19:33

The first time I heard this theory, I thought it bullshit too, both mathematically and scientifically. Each sperm is 50:50 chance of being x or y. But this suggests otherwise…
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081211121835.htm

Assuming it’s not fake, it’s actual research from a university, rather than anecdotes and theories. Someone mentioned it earlier on the thread too, the returning fathers effect.

Boy or girl? It's in the father's genes

A study of hundreds of years of family trees suggests a man's genes play a role in him having sons or daughters. Men inherit a tendency to have more sons or more daughters from their parents. This means that a man with many brothers is more likely to h...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081211121835.htm

Mumsgirls · 09/11/2023 19:35

My mum just had 3 girls, I had 2 girls, sister had 3 girls, my daughter had 1 girl.
9 girls and not a boy in 3 generations. Science says just luck, but I wonder if later generations will find reasons. We don’t know what we don’t know

happyhouse2 · 09/11/2023 19:37

onlyfunfacts.com/history/war/the-returning-soldier-effect/
This is v interesting and explains about how WHEN you have sex can determine gender

Lollyloup83 · 09/11/2023 19:37

Pretty sure there's millions of each type of sperm and one just happens to get through. Flipping a coin could land on tales 20 times in a row, it's rare but it would happen if you got people all around the world to flip a coin.
Sadly I think it really is just 50/50

greenacrylicpaint · 09/11/2023 19:38

I've known women who had both sex children but in early infancy the children of one sex died.

so yes, if there are genetic dispositions/disease that are sex specific that might explain it.

Fbshe · 09/11/2023 19:47

This is either a big coincidence or we have the same friend! Were the last 2 twins?

SandwichDog · 09/11/2023 19:47

I think some of the posters are potentially being a bit simplistic about this 50/50 chance. At root, that's right but I'd be interested to hear from a reproductive biologist about factors such as temperature, acidity, stress, distance from vagina to womb acne environment generally that might influence which sperm is more likely to survive to reach the egg and which more likely to break through (I gather that its not just a case of "first there wins").

I don't know enough to comment but I suspect there are lots of very interesting factors that could skew the outcome one way or another in various people (or in different environments/ times of life). Fascinating topic!

bigdecisionstomake · 09/11/2023 19:48

My ExH (father to my DCs) had 3 older brothers. All the brothers only had male children (5 between them).

When we got engaged to be married his family warned me I'd only ever have boys. I had 2 boys.

Anecdotal obviously but true nevertheless.

TeaGinandFags · 09/11/2023 19:48

wellthatwentwelldinnit · 09/11/2023 19:03

It may be that technically men choose the sex but the uterus can be hostile to certain sperm, do it may be that that influences it?

My uterus was hostile to all my ex Hs sperm.

Your uterus sounds very prescient.
😂

SandwichDog · 09/11/2023 19:50

modgepodge · 09/11/2023 19:33

The first time I heard this theory, I thought it bullshit too, both mathematically and scientifically. Each sperm is 50:50 chance of being x or y. But this suggests otherwise…
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081211121835.htm

Assuming it’s not fake, it’s actual research from a university, rather than anecdotes and theories. Someone mentioned it earlier on the thread too, the returning fathers effect.

Thanks for this! So interesting.

Unusualactualname · 09/11/2023 19:51

There haven't been girls born in our family (following the male line down) for generations - at least 250 years.

Hereinthismoment · 09/11/2023 19:51

Dillane · 09/11/2023 19:13

Apparently not, there’s a theory that if you had 100 kids you’d have approximately 50 of each, but no one ever has that many to test the theory 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sort of - those mega families like the radfords have a roughly even split, I think.

Robert Thompson (one of James Bulger’s killers) was one of eight boys, no girls.

greengreengrass25 · 09/11/2023 19:52

bigdecisionstomake · 09/11/2023 19:48

My ExH (father to my DCs) had 3 older brothers. All the brothers only had male children (5 between them).

When we got engaged to be married his family warned me I'd only ever have boys. I had 2 boys.

Anecdotal obviously but true nevertheless.

Yes I was warned too as my dh's family was very male dominated and told not to expect any girls

I have 2 and a ds😀

bigdecisionstomake · 09/11/2023 19:58

greengreengrass25 · 09/11/2023 19:52

Yes I was warned too as my dh's family was very male dominated and told not to expect any girls

I have 2 and a ds😀

Aaah that's lovely. I shall keep that in mind if and when my DSs start their own families as I've always assumed if I was lucky enough to have grandchildren they'd probably be boys but obviously there is still hope... 🙂

Bethandfreddie · 09/11/2023 20:00

maybemumm · 09/11/2023 18:51

My friend is pregnant and her DP has two daughters from another relationship. She said the baby would be a girl because her DP only makes girls, and it’s just confirmed to be a girl.

Is it true that some couples (men, in particular, as I know it’s men who influence it) can only biologically make either female or male offspring?

My MIL only had boys, and apparently she couldn't carry girls. Her step son only had girls and his wife couldn't carry boys.

Honestly I just think it's pot luck and you have an equal chance of either, that it was all just a coincidence that they only had one sex.

greengreengrass25 · 09/11/2023 20:01

Thanks

Also have a dgd.

There are a balance of male/females in my family so maybe that has a bearing

Bumply · 09/11/2023 20:02

www.bbc.com/future/article/20161014-why-billionaires-have-more-sons

This was an interesting article

fyn · 09/11/2023 20:37

I have all girls, I’ve also had unexplained recurrent miscarriages. It does lead you to wonder if maybe there is a chromosomal anomaly only affecting males that means they aren’t viable pregnancies for us!

Vick99 · 09/11/2023 20:38

I find this so fascinating and I think it's a subject which we still don't know that much about.

This article is really interesting....suggesting that the egg can "choose" which sperm it allows to fertilise it. This could explain why sometimes a woman can't get pregnant with one partner, but then becomes pregnant easily with a new partner. Maybe some women have eggs which are more likely to choose an X/Y sperm...?

https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/human-eggs-prefer-some-mens-sperm-over-others-research-shows/

Human eggs prefer some men’s sperm over others, research shows

Human eggs use chemical signals to attract sperm. New research from Stockholm University, Manchester University NHS Foundation Trust and The University of Manchester shows that eggs use these chemical signals to “choose” sperm. Different women’s eggs a...

https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/human-eggs-prefer-some-mens-sperm-over-others-research-shows

MummyTo4BoysXXXX · 09/11/2023 20:49

me & my partner have been together 10 years.. Currently on my 8th pregnancy, and have experienced in order the following... 3 boys, 3 recurrent miscarriages, then our rainbow - 4th boy who was born last year in November, and currently 26weeks with our 1 shot wonder 😂 which happens to be our FIRST girl! So for me @maybemumm I'd just say it's 50/50 either way like flipping a coin, it's got to either land on 'heads' or 'tails'.. Goes to show though, the sonographer who scanned me last year that made a comment referring to the fact "you may not be able to carry a girl" clearly was wrong, unprofessional and just shouldn't of said it! It's down to the man I believe as his swimmer is either an X or Y chromosone as we always carry the X chromosome 😀

Blanketpolicy · 09/11/2023 20:51

My paternal gran had BBBBGGGGG. If she had stopped after 4 you could have said she could only have boys.

My mum had BBBGG, her mum GGGBG.

Large families are less common now so it is likely more smaller families only have children that are the same sex.