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North East thread 7: the bus chat continues...

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Someaddedsugar · 27/10/2023 21:48

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DianaBarry5 · 08/11/2023 17:46

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DianaBarry5 · 08/11/2023 17:49

Does anyone know if there's a bus running from Newcastle to the metro centre? My daughter works in town, we live near metro but I work in Northumberland and just can't pick her up although I am taking her in in the mornings

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 18:20

isnt there a train from Newcastle to Metro centre? Because there are no Go north east buses.

PickAChew · 08/11/2023 18:21

The is the train or the very slow 6 and 7 which go from Gosforth way, via just about every street in the west end.
https://bustimes.org/services/6-four-lane-ends-metrocentre

Check the 7 box and you'll get both

DianaBarry5 · 08/11/2023 18:51

I just wondered if the 100 stagecoach still ran from metro to Newcastle?

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 19:23

I thought the 100 was suspended. But @PickAChew will know. It doesn’t show on Google maps

PickAChew · 08/11/2023 19:36

Nope, they never reintroduced the 100, stating that they had a reciprocal ticket agreement with gne. Fat lot of use that is, at the moment.

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 19:54

I always surprised me that, there is no metro station at the Metro Centre. 😆

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 20:32

I don’t think the rest of the country realise we don’t have loads of trains stations and loads of different options. Most places are Go North East only.

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 20:35

Did see that the Network one travel ticket has reduced price. Great if you have buses etc. 😂

Wotsitfappe · 08/11/2023 21:02

PickAChew · 08/11/2023 19:36

Nope, they never reintroduced the 100, stating that they had a reciprocal ticket agreement with gne. Fat lot of use that is, at the moment.

I didn't know that had stopped running! It used to be a very busy service!

Wotsitfappe · 08/11/2023 21:03

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 18:20

isnt there a train from Newcastle to Metro centre? Because there are no Go north east buses.

I think the train is every 30 min or and hour in an evening. My partner got it on sat so still there...

PickAChew · 08/11/2023 21:08

Yeah, the new TNE funded tickets are pretty good value though the day save for outside of Tyne and wear isn't valid as widely as the explorers. It's almost £6 cheaper, though

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/tickets#29d8bc48-c522-45da-9ab9-2254b55a9326

Fares and tickets - Go North East

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/tickets#29d8bc48-c522-45da-9ab9-2254b55a9326

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 21:11

Apparently during covid, then driver shortage. Driver shortages are everywhere

SequentialAnalyst · 08/11/2023 22:25

Coming from suburban South London, when I first lived in rented accommodation, in Brandon Village, in the early 1970s, I was amazed to discover that here in Durham you caught buses by going to a bus stop at the time stated on the timetable, and then the bus would turn up on timeShock

In London, as you may know, buses come in 3s (there is a mathematical reason for this). In the 1960s and 70s many of our bus routes where I lived set off from the opposite side of London. Yes, they went out on a timetable. But by the time they had crossed Central London to get to us, there was, in effect, no timetable. Hence them piling up in 3s, IYSWIM.

So what you did (and do still, I think) is walk to the bus stop and wait hopefully for a bus. This could be quite fun in the right weather, as it was allowable to strike up a conversation with the other people in the queue, moaning about the bus serviceGrin

Nolongera · 09/11/2023 12:32

AlviarinAesSedai · 08/11/2023 20:32

I don’t think the rest of the country realise we don’t have loads of trains stations and loads of different options. Most places are Go North East only.

Most places?

Stage coach and Arriva cover huge swathes of the area.

PickAChew · 09/11/2023 13:19

That's true but it is the case that most people in the area only have one main bus company serving them and overlap is minimal, usually limited to a few very busy corridors such as the Great North Road so when something like this happens, people don't have other options. Even a lot of nexus and DCC supported routes are covered by GNE after the most recent round of tenders (including routes like the 25 which GNE fairly recently dropped commercially because they weren't making money on them as well as the 82, 83 etc, in Washington) so people don't have those, traditionally the bread and butter of small independents, to fall back on. Washington and Gateshead are GNE territory and this map is a snapshot of what's running there, as of a few minutes ago. Extend that west a bit and it's just as empty, even though there should be over a dozen buses on that part of the map, right now. If Arriva County Durham were to strike, the map would be similarly empty in the south of Co Durham and in Darlington.

People in parts of Gateshead and South Tyneside who might have been able to manage a walk or a lift to a metro station, while this strike is on, will be out of luck, next week, when Nexus engineers are striking, resulting in no Metros.

We've also not had a prolonged bus strike like this since the 90s. The recent Stagecoach Sunderland and Stockton strikes were pretty short, compared with what we've already had and an Arriva Northumbria strike that was threatened when the Jesmond depot was closed, resulting in drivers having to move to other depots (Blyth or Ashington) was averted at the last minute.

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AlviarinAesSedai · 09/11/2023 13:46

I agree, PickAChew, people don’t have choice. We have one bus to Chester le Street and that’s it. And that’s because go north east gave up 25!
There is not the choice around here. Even the metro centre only has train from Newcastle. So it’s shit.

Tallpaulwho · 09/11/2023 14:10

I went to Chester-le-Street for an appointment this week, the high street was really quiet, the shops and my favourite coffee shop were unusually empty compared to normal. A couple of shops were closed that aren't usually, I would think due to staff being unable to get in or lack of footfall.

The strike is having a huge affect on so many people. I hadn't been there for a couple of months and it was a really noticeable difference.🙁

PickAChew · 09/11/2023 16:00

That's really sad, @Tallpaulwho . CLS might be a bit scruffy but it's usually really lively and is a useful small town shopping centre.

ihavespoken · 09/11/2023 16:29

That's interesting (and sad obvs) about CLS @Tallpaulwho but I hadn't thought of the other side - I was in Crawcrook on Sat and it was really busy. When we stopped in a cafe, the manager said they had recently been very busy because of the bus strikes - as people couldn't get into town / Metrocentre, it seemed they had been using their very local shops and cafes more! Hope they will continue to value them once the choice to go elsewhere is back

Summerhillsquare · 09/11/2023 16:58

Just to add my voice to the call for some attention in the media to the bus strike. Who the hell do we need to lobby to get GO NE to pull their finger out and make decent pay offer?! I can't shop in Durham or Newcastle any more and the hospital staff are struggling to get in.

AlviarinAesSedai · 09/11/2023 17:00

Yeah CLS was empty today, but part of the problem is it’s quite a walk from lots of the housing estates. Most people either get the bus or drive. And if you are going to drive they will probably go Arnison.
Your favourite coffee shop isn’t the one with the poppy window art/ display. Because that one is normally very busy.

AlviarinAesSedai · 09/11/2023 17:04

Was going to go see Fenwicks window by train. But as is paper cut outs again, I’m not going to bother 🙈.
Anyone seen the update GNE have put on their Facebook page. Lol. I never get to answer any survey questions. No comments allowed.

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