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Are most fancy baby equipment items a marketing ploy?

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maybemaybeno · 19/10/2023 14:20

TTC and overwhelmed with the amount of choice out there. Hundreds of 100-in-one travel systems, about 20 electric/singing and dancing baby swings, wipe warmers, white noise machines, socks to monitor heart rate. I imagine you could spend a fortune!

We only have a small house and though I want all to be perfect I also don’t want to get sucked into the trap of paying over the odds without reason to.

Do you really need much? Somewhere to sleep, somewhere to play, clothes to wear, sterilising equipment if FF and a sling and/a pram and car seat… fair enough, but more than this?

I see all these influencers booking appointments and consultations at high end retail stores which go on to sell them a load of products. MNers and experienced mums weigh in, is it needed? Does it make life easier or no?

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ReadRum · 19/10/2023 18:59

Get to know the baby first for all but the essentials and buy secondhand to try things out (except for the car seat, go for the safest one and save money elsewhere if you need to).

skkyelark · 19/10/2023 19:47

We also had a (secondhand) babybjorn bouncer, and both girls loved it. It's easy to bounce with your foot when they're tiny to help settle them whilst doing something else, and much easier to move from room to room than bulkier or heavier ones. Also easy to pull off the cover and chuck in the washing machine, which was a life saver with a reflux baby.

Torganer · 19/10/2023 20:05

My friend’s baby hated the baby bjorn bouncer! We borrowed it from them, it was fine, but no different to a similar bouncer we bought from John Lewis for £30!

A lot are baby dependent. Some hate a sling, some love it. We found a jumperoo invaluable, but some don’t get on with it. I’d recommend borrowing if you can (I borrowed things from relative strangers in a local WhatsApp group), or buying cheaply secondhand. Especially things like a Jumperoo that is only used for a few months. They seem to get passed around for free in local groups. Saves having to store things too. If you have another one, you can just borrow it again, or sell and buy another secondhand. Especially if you have a small space.

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BertieBotts · 19/10/2023 20:31

Once you have just a little knowledge of the industry it's absolutely shocking how much marketing and nonsense goes into a lot of this stuff.

It won't go away though because it really works. Expectant couples, awaiting their first child with a certain amount of disposable income are one of the most willing consumer groups to spend. You can basically keep piling zeroes onto the price and they will pay it anyway. Anything for my little prince/princess. I think the companies get greedy with this honestly. And then with the influencers and stuff it's basically just a licence to print money because this is extremely effective advertising.

Because of this what you end up with is a completely baffling hierarchy of products. I'm sure this is the same in most industries, but in general you'd expect a rough correlation between price and quality/features - not so in baby products. The following is a rough ready reckoner though.

The really cheapest cheap stuff can either be perfectly fine but basic with a very simple, perhaps more old-fashioned design, OR it will be flimsy and fall apart within a short period. Because there are safety standards on most baby things, they are generally safe enough to use but they will be the bare minimum that you need, nothing extraneous.

There is an extra note to be particularly suspicious of any extra-extra cheap items which are only available on platforms like amazon, ebay or temu and honestly some of the cheaper discount websites like Emma's Diary are starting to offer these too - because if you are buying some kind of import direct from a country that is not particularly bothered about export quality, there's a chance it might actually NOT meet safety standards, which is a huge problem.

Then the next step up price wise can be hugely variable, with some things that are just a tiny step up from basic and worth paying the extra for, and some things which have a hundred and one keywords and claim to have all the features of the more expensive models - in general do not touch these with a ten foot pole. They make compromises to fit all of those promises in at such a low price point. There is also a lot of mediocre rubbish at this level.

You get around the mid price point and these are generally worth looking at, but again will be a total mix. Look at premium brands which have lower end models at this point. Those are often good. When you have brands which exist entirely in this tier or straddling both this tier and the cheaper tiers, be very wary. Again be wary of misleading promises and lack of longevity. In this price tier you generally do not get fantastic design, however you can pick up a decent product with a few of the more higher end features, if you shop well. Pay attention to actual reviews, not from an influencer who has tried it for 5 minutes, not from someone who has never used this type of item before and they're really reviewing the item type rather than the model (e.g. a review of an Ergo carrier, reviewer has not used any other baby carriers). Ideally from people who have had one for a while and/or from experts who can compare with other similar items. Be suspicious of price inflation if something is heavily promoted by influencers. Be suspicious of price inflation if something is heavily branded and associated with an image.

Starting to get into the top 3/4 quarters of the price ranges. You'll have some actually excellent, well designed products with great features and good design that charge this much because they are premium products that cost more to make and can command the price tag partially because market forces allow but also because they are genuinely unique and/or some of the best options. However, again, there are also inflated fashion brands here. You'll find nonsensical features that nobody needs - and brands are keen to explain to you exactly why they are useful, so this can be very confusing. Then there are always the stand out totally out of the region of anything else prices. These are items like a cot that rocks itself. I'd just say these are generally niche for a reason and there is generally plenty of discussion online about whether or not this is useful.

Second hand is a good place to save money (unless it's safety critical to be new - e.g. car seats, mattresses)
Talk to real people to see what their experiences were.
Try not to be dazzled by sales talk about fancy features.
If you are going to spend a lot of money on a new item, it's worth talking to people who work in that field to suss out which specific models are worth splashing out on vs which of the cheap ones are not a false economy.

Sceptre86 · 19/10/2023 20:39

I'd focus on ttc first and then think about the stuff later. None of it bar a pram and car seat, plus somewhere for you baby to sleep are essential. Some things are nice to have. I could have lived without a sling as it just didn't suit my lifestyle. I used a play mat/gym for tummy time.
it did take up a fair bit of room but I have a decent sized bedroom and lounge. I had a dr brown steriliser which I loved but you can use milton. Some people swear by the perfect prep machines others wouldn't touch one as they don't come recommended by hv (at least they didn't when I had my youngest in 2021). I had one and it made my life easier when doing the nighttime feeds. I was given a swing bouncer and it's done the job with all 3 of mine, a safe place to pop them in once big enough so they could see me whilst I was in the shower or when I was eating. I did buy a next to me crib with dc3 and wish I had known about them earlier. It was a god send after my 3rd section, I placed it on dh's side as he did all the early night feeds. I had a breathable purflo sleep tight baby nest and used it for naps. Again some people wouldn't buy one at all, I did and my dd2 was the only one of my kids that actually slept well. My pram (silver cross wave) was a big investment but it has lasted all 3 kids and is still being used now (dd2 is 2).

BertieBotts · 19/10/2023 20:43

The Baby Bjorn is a perfect example of bizarre pricing!

When I was a baby in the 80s/90s everyone had a bouncer like this. Yes the cover was much less stylish, more likely to be pastel gingham, or garish primary coloured teddy bears. But they were all long like this, with a long foot plate that an older baby (about 3m+) could kick themselves. A parent could kick the footplate with their own foot for a younger baby.

Into the early 2000s for whatever reason the trend changed towards vibrating things and rockers and motorised swings instead, and these didn't need to be as long so they started to become more compact and round like a little flying saucer kind of shape, and they just don't bounce the same! When I had DS1 in 2008 you couldn't buy those old basic types any more, and they looked like some kind of ageing unsafe relic. I got one from a nearly new sale Grin It was brilliant and worked just like I remembered my little sister, cousins etc being bounced around.

But anyway now they are all gone and the only one that has this design is the Baby Bjorn, and they charge £100+ for it because it has a stylish cover. But it's exactly the same as the 1980s baby bouncers, like this one, which cost £7 when new:

https://www.pineappleretro.co.uk/products/vintage-1980s-baby-bouncer-toy

Vintage 1980s Baby Bouncer/ Toy

bouncerThis is a great, vintage baby bouncer from Mothercare Used but comes with it's original plastic bag and added (removable) Mothercare plastic toy Slight wear to the head area, but not obvious and still totally usable if required (also great for d...

https://www.pineappleretro.co.uk/products/vintage-1980s-baby-bouncer-toy

DelurkingAJ · 19/10/2023 20:50

Wait and see. We never used the steriliser because I EBF without a hitch (I’d have swapped for a baby that slept!) and neither DS would take a dummy. One DS screamed when left in the baby gym the other gurgled and ‘played’ for ages…

peachybee · 19/10/2023 22:42

It's all marketing! The big and the little buys!

I only got a microwave steriliser and spent the whole time using it burning my fingers and wishing I'd just got the cold water tub! Unless you go the full hog and get that UV one that dries the bottles for you they're all the same, and you have to descale the electric ones.

I also got influenced into mam bottles and EVERY DAY I hate myself for it as I wash and dry the SIX tiny pieces 😬

And I spent a long time feeling cheap I only got a bouncer and not a swing as well, but my baby was happiest on a blanket/playmat on the floor!

Wait till they're here and you know what they like/dislike, I think lots of mums to be including myself forget next day delivery exists!

Most important spend will be a safe supportive infant carrier, and ERF seat to follow on (if you drive of course), I wish I'd invested more research and time into this while I was pregnant

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 20/10/2023 08:22

peachybee · 19/10/2023 22:42

It's all marketing! The big and the little buys!

I only got a microwave steriliser and spent the whole time using it burning my fingers and wishing I'd just got the cold water tub! Unless you go the full hog and get that UV one that dries the bottles for you they're all the same, and you have to descale the electric ones.

I also got influenced into mam bottles and EVERY DAY I hate myself for it as I wash and dry the SIX tiny pieces 😬

And I spent a long time feeling cheap I only got a bouncer and not a swing as well, but my baby was happiest on a blanket/playmat on the floor!

Wait till they're here and you know what they like/dislike, I think lots of mums to be including myself forget next day delivery exists!

Most important spend will be a safe supportive infant carrier, and ERF seat to follow on (if you drive of course), I wish I'd invested more research and time into this while I was pregnant

The MAM bottles are dog shit!!!

spitefulandbadgrammar · 20/10/2023 08:29

WellIdontknowwhattocallmyself · 19/10/2023 16:29

Well they’ll need teething toys and other sensory toys to interact with

The entire world is new to a baby; the world is its toy. DS is currently playing with an old TV remote (batteries removed), an egg box, and in the pram his favourite thing to fiddle with/caress is a pair of my socks.

Simonjt · 20/10/2023 08:34

We’re too tight to buy all the gadgets.

We did buy however a quite pricey next to you cot system that turned into toddler bed etc, our daughter is almost two and has never slept in it.

Our daughter was premature, when she came home she was a bit over term, but as she was quite premature she would still sometimes ‘forget’ to breathe. We were very much warned against the owlet sock as was her foster carer by the NICU staff.

We had a car seat, sling, pushchair (second hand), feeding stuff, clothes and nappies. We didn’t really buy much extra when she came home, we got one of those playmats after a few weeks, when she was crawling and we wanted to leave her for a minute or two we used our old dog pen as a baby pen 🤣 she was however a very very easy baby.

mondaytosunday · 20/10/2023 08:38

Nope. You need something h for the baby to sleep in, something to take it around in (pushchair), something for the car. Then a few muslins, a baby bath might be helpful but not essential, a portable changing mat. I also used a Baby Bjorn front carrier. Travel cot was useful for downstairs naps and containing baby for a few minutes. I also had a playmat. Eventually a high chair - I had one that attached to the table. Eventually a lightweight stroller. That's about it.

sittinginacafe · 20/10/2023 08:44

My NCT teacher said to us: remember, the shops will still be open when the baby comes.

BRILLIANT advice.

buy as little as you possibly can in advance - a place to sleep, changing mat, sling, some baby gros. Car seat if you need one. No more!!

NiceParkingSpotRitaThanksJanet · 20/10/2023 08:46

I think so! Bought into quite a lot of it last time but most was hardly used. I'm pregnant again and not even going to use a cot after I ended up bringing my son into bed with us on his second night home (wouldn't settle in his cot). My plan this time is stick them in the bed, stick them in a sling (first baby also hated his pram and to be honest I found it cumbersome but depends on your preference!). Only things I'll get are a car seat and a cheap 2nd hand bouncer I think! I know some swear by certain gadgets though, I think like others have said it's very much down to personal preference. But I'd say many products aren't the necessity they're made out to be!

SootspriteSearcher · 20/10/2023 09:29

My dds are now 15 and 11 my biggest bit if advice, spend out on the things you use everyday.

The best car seat you can afford if you drive.

For us it was buggies, I went for a travel system with dd1, it was bulky, heavy, nightmare on the bus so after 6 months I bought a babyjogger stroller with a one handed fold! With dd2 I learnt my lesson, I got the bugaboo bee straight away, was lightweight and used until she was out of a buggy! And talking of buggies, I had a thing clipped on the back for my tea, purse, phone keys etc. And I used to have a clip on cup holder for dd when she got older.

We had a basic door bouncer that cost £1 at a Carboot for dd1. Only reason I got a jumperoo for dd2 was because dd1 kept swinging and charging into her when she was in the door bouncer and I was worried about injuries 🙈

The 2 gadgets that were invaluable for me was a little plastic seat that stuck to the bath (I used to put her in it the shower when I was having one too to save time and keep her contained!)

When dd2 was born I was given this towel that poppered around my neck and was normal bath sheet size so you could put them straight onto your chest and wrap up against yourather than those stupid baby ones that are tiny!

I wouldnt bother with a baby bath, it was easier to use the kitchen sink or a top & tail bowl. Then once they could sit up we used the plastic suction seat.

Buy the biggest playmat you can, we used ours for years (way past babies and toddlers) As they got older I used it in the garden in the summer.

I had a vibrating seat for dd1, she loved it. Dd2 hated it and liked the basic bouncer I got for free that I bounced with my foot!

So buy second hand as most things aren't used long and no guarantee baby will like it!

PurpleBugz · 20/10/2023 10:21

Each child is different. Eg a white noise machine a complete waste of money for many but some kids won't sleep without it. My Moby wrap was invaluable for my middle child but youngest hated it.

My advice is but stuff when you need it not before

spitefulandbadgrammar · 20/10/2023 11:30

definitely buy when the need occurs, or better yet Freecycle/Olio etc. especially as one person’ must-haves and not neededs won’t match yours: I’ve never needed a playmat, I’ve got carpet; my kitchen is cold and the sink has stuff in it waiting to be washed so a baby bath to use in the warmest rooms was invaluable.

It all depends on the baby, your home, your lifestyle, your parenting style. But largely the baby!

Caspianberg · 20/10/2023 11:51

@sittinginacafe - this wasn’t our case. Ds was born peak covid 2020. Where we live all clothe shops remained shut until about September ( and supermarkets here don’t sell clothes).
It was a right pain as we had only bought newborn and some up to 3 months in advance, and everything only was out of stock also.

MargotBamborough · 20/10/2023 11:56

Some things are essential, other things are not.

We borrowed a Next to Me crib but I wouldn't buy one. I'd just get a proper cot and use it from the beginning with the mattress on the raised setting.

I would get a cheap bouncy chair second hand because you don't use them for very long.

A completely idiot proof baby carrier has been essential for us, we have the Baby Bjorn one which clips together really easily.

If money is tight get the Ikea Antilop high chair.

A play mat and play arch are really useful.

Actually you can get all these things except the baby carrier from Ikea.

MargotBamborough · 20/10/2023 11:57

Oh I would buy a touch sensitive night light for the bedside table. We got a cheap one from Amazon and have used it non stop.

Summermeadowflowers · 20/10/2023 11:59

sittinginacafe · 20/10/2023 08:44

My NCT teacher said to us: remember, the shops will still be open when the baby comes.

BRILLIANT advice.

buy as little as you possibly can in advance - a place to sleep, changing mat, sling, some baby gros. Car seat if you need one. No more!!

Not quite true for those of us who had babies in 2020/21!

Summermeadowflowers · 20/10/2023 11:59

Lol see @Caspianberg got there first!

lifehappens12 · 20/10/2023 12:18

Ready this takes me back - some thoughts:
Changing table - you don't need one. I had two changing mats - one upstairs and one downstairs.

Upstairs on top of a 4 drawer malm ikea chest. Enough storage for wipes, creams clothes blankets etc. clothes are rotated so bigger clothes were stirred under my bed until baby outgrew that set.

Changing mat downstairs too as I really didn't want to run up and down all day long. So we had a cheap basket from Amazon with wipes, nappies, change of clothes ready.

Bouncer for me was essential kit and I did get a baby Bjorn. But second hand and sold it for what I bought it for. You need somewhere to put the baby down to make a cuppa, have a shower hand the washing out. So the bouncer needs to be light so you can carry from room to garden etc.

Lastly a sling - popping into a shop but don't want to pull the pram out. House work - sling , fussy baby - go for a walk with the sling. Some hate it by the way so look up sling libraries where you can try once baby is here: you don't need it when the baby is hours old.

Caspianberg · 20/10/2023 12:51

I think main reason every loves the babybjorn is the weight. It’s much much lighter than most others and so easy enough to carry baby in arm and pick that up to move wherever in house or garden it’s needed.

minipie · 20/10/2023 13:31

The best thing about the Babybjorn bouncer for us was the ease of washing. DC1 was prem and we used it for weaning as she couldn’t sit up by then and DC2 had a tendency to do explosive poos. Being able to just slide the cloth off and wash was fab.

Other things I found invaluable - musical cot mobile (gave me long enough for a shower) and a Jumperoo (long enough to get lunch/tea). Both second hand. I had a non put downable baby though so if yours is more chilled these may be irrelevant and just massive bits of plastic.