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What's a working day in an office job?

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Concestor · 18/10/2023 19:10

This has come up in a work situation where someone gets paid a day rate and logs their hours and I'm curious.

I think a working day in an office job is 7.5 hours, based on the 9-5.30 with a lunch hour. Obviously I know lots of people work different patterns to this these days.

Do you think a working day in an office job is 7.5 hours? Or something else? What hours would you expect from a contractor on a day rate where the hours per day hadn't been clarified/agreed?

OP posts:
Mumof1andacat · 18/10/2023 19:57

I work 0830-1630 with a 30 min unpaid lunch break. 7.5 hr day.

zurala · 18/10/2023 19:59

Burnoutwhat · 18/10/2023 19:35

I think about 7 to 8 hours. I work freelance and charge a day rate. Honestly I'd be a bit put out if somone was asking me to prove my hours or similar. I often work in a flexible way responding to things they come in. So I'm doing extra bits too. There's definitely trust needed, but I feel at the level a contractor is working at quibbling over 30 mins isn't the vibe.

I completely agree. But the situation has arisen and I'm curious as to whether there's a general consensus on what a working office day is in terms of hours.

The contracted day rate is less than the salaried rate for similar roles. The rate is set by the employer/client.

LuckOfTheDrawer · 18/10/2023 20:00

404usernotfound · 18/10/2023 19:17

Depends. I hire contractors at up to £1k per day, and I expect a good days work out of them. Very few people in my industry (office based) only work 7-8 hour days. Most are at their desk by 8am, leaving sometime between 6-9pm depending on workload at the time.

This is madness - who can work productively for 10+ hours per day. I'd rather pay an hourly rate, and have the person work a reasonable number of hours per day.

LuckOfTheDrawer · 18/10/2023 20:01

37.5 hours is standard full time hours though, so you could easily argue that this is what's meant if a different number isn't given.

PinkMoscatoLover · 18/10/2023 20:02

I do 10-6 with a 40 min paid break. I love it😆

Numnumbirdy · 18/10/2023 20:04

40 hrs a week for professional contractor

picklsey · 18/10/2023 20:04

@zurala surely the rate should be (significantly) higher than salaried to account for own salary, plus holiday pay, overheads, tax & insurances? That's insane to me.

In this case, I wouldn't expect a full days work out of the contractor each day, based on whatever the standard "office hours" are in this place of work. Obviously they're not being reimbursed as such!!

Vettrianofan · 18/10/2023 20:06

Completely unnecessary taking a one hour lunch break. Doesn't take one hour to eat a sandwich 🤣

Vettrianofan · 18/10/2023 20:09

MoonlightMuse · 18/10/2023 19:40

9-5 with half an hour for lunch.

You need one hour lunch break like others on this thread!

S72 · 18/10/2023 20:10

My organisation is 35hrs pw, 7hrs per day for permanent staff and contractors.

AgnesX · 18/10/2023 20:12

The same hours apply for contractors and salaried staff . Flexi between 08.00-17.30 to equal 37.5 hours paid.

Poniesandrainbows · 18/10/2023 20:19

My office is 7 hour days full time (35 hrs pw).

bingbongbang23 · 18/10/2023 20:25

@LuckOfTheDrawer

In my work it is standard to work approx 8am-5:30pm. Maybe once a week to take a lunch break, rest of time you work through it (eat in meeting!). Then standard at lest 2-3days a week to then log on in evening and do a further 3hours.

Contact is 37.5 a week.

MaggieFS · 18/10/2023 20:28

I'm on 37.5 hrs a week in my contract, originating from the 9-5.30 you describe, but always work longer and flex start and finish times to suit work or personal life.

DH is 36 hours per week.

Plenty of people are 40.

ArcticBells · 18/10/2023 20:29

I'm paid for 37.5 hours but actually work around 50 a week

fieldsatnightfall · 18/10/2023 20:32

Mine is 37.5 hrs a week. 7.5 hrs a day, 30 mins unpaid lunch. 8-4 but we often work later and claim the hours.

zurala · 18/10/2023 20:39

picklsey · 18/10/2023 20:04

@zurala surely the rate should be (significantly) higher than salaried to account for own salary, plus holiday pay, overheads, tax & insurances? That's insane to me.

In this case, I wouldn't expect a full days work out of the contractor each day, based on whatever the standard "office hours" are in this place of work. Obviously they're not being reimbursed as such!!

I agree! It is a crazy situation. Hence why it's important to clarify what a day is because the contractors are already missing out. The rate hasn't been put up for at least 8 years either...

Nonentity2023 · 18/10/2023 20:44

Our full time staff work 7 hours a day so 35 hours per week.

mrsbyers · 18/10/2023 20:46

7hrs and 24 mins after accounting for Lyn can break

RampantIvy · 18/10/2023 21:06

In absolutely every full time job I have had my working hours have always been 37.5 hours a week (7.5 hours a day).
35 hours is quite a short working day and not usual IME.

404usernotfound · 19/10/2023 13:25

LuckOfTheDrawer · 18/10/2023 20:00

This is madness - who can work productively for 10+ hours per day. I'd rather pay an hourly rate, and have the person work a reasonable number of hours per day.

Pretty much everyone in my industry.

Contractors tend to work for 6-12 months and then take a couple of months off though.

AffIt · 19/10/2023 13:31

It depends: I am in a senior role and work remotely in consultancy, so my days / weeks / months will vary.

I'm employed on the basis of a 40-hr week, but if a big project needs to get over the line, I'll work double that, including evenings and weekends.

At other times, when things are a bit quieter and I'm satisfied I've got most of my 'to-dos' over the line, I'll take slightly longer lunchbreaks or finish up a bit earlier, so could do 30-35 hours a week.

Our industry is very much 'get the work done and we don't care how or when you do it', so ultimately it all balances out. The time I spend at my desk isn't monitored or controlled and I have a lot of control and autonomy over my workload.

AffIt · 19/10/2023 13:37

LuckOfTheDrawer · 18/10/2023 20:00

This is madness - who can work productively for 10+ hours per day. I'd rather pay an hourly rate, and have the person work a reasonable number of hours per day.

Having been an IT contractor myself in a past life, this is pretty common.

A lot of contracts will be short-term - 3/6 months - and certainly the way I used to do it would be to work flat out for that period, then take a few months off before starting another contract.

The work is generally very well-paid and if you work in a fairly niche area, as I did, you tend to have a good and fairly secure network meaning that work is easy to find.

AlexandraPeppernose · 18/11/2023 21:48

My last 2 jobs have been 8.30-5.30 with unpaid hour lunchbreak. 40hr week. This seems to be increasingly the normal where I am.

ilovebrie8 · 25/11/2023 09:57

It is usually 7.5 hours as the standard sometimes even 7 hours…people working 10 hours is mad how can you still be productive after that many hours .