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tmfr: thinking about family v. thinking about self

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Aurora5 · 17/10/2023 09:11

Hello everyone

It's very hard to write this but I know that I must because it is the hardest time of my life and I have to make decisions soon. We had confirmation of Downs last week and getting more information on it didn't happen in a good way, if it ever can: two chance conversations with doctors, one a routine obstetrician appointment set up before the confirmation, one a consultant pulled in from the corridor to discuss my high HCG rate. The former started going on about termination when I was only 1:11 chance - I was completely shocked as knew nothing about Downs Syndrome or why anyone would terminate.

The second doctor, after Downs had been confirmed, threw out the increased risk of cancer and leukemia without emotion while listing off a whole load of other medical problems. My DP survived stage three cancer at the age of 29 and to hear this completely broke him, he was sobbing in front of the midwife and consultant. I felt something in me shut off or switch at that moment: we can't do this if he might have to watch our child suffer with chemotherapy as he did. We of course have subsequently discovered that the treatment rate of leukemia is great and people with Downs are in fact LESS likely to suffer from some cancers, but it was a very formative moment in my decision-making to see him react like that, it flipped something in my head, and it set up the conversations between us in the next few days, which have mostly centred on risk and the fact that we can't handle it.

In the week that has passed, without my realising, I have pursued lots of information from that particular perspective. As with many people I've seen on Mumsnet the risk of the unknown is almost unbearable: having to make a choice to take a gamble on health issues that could be serious, or could be minimal, is more than any parent can really be expected to do. We have an amazing DD and we are older parents - I am 43 - meaning that she would also have a lot of responsibility in her thirties and forties.

But at this stage I find myself suddenly realising that somewhere along the line I haven't been able to examine what I think personally, in myself, because of feelings towards my DP and my daughter. I'm scared of doing something not right by myself as it would have repercussions later. But when you are in a family, where is the line between your own choice and the choice made for the family?

I have always struggled with asking for what I want. Part of me thinks it was my path to be a carer to a vulnerable child and adult: if I were single with no other child I would. Part of me knows I wouldn't be able to cope as well as some women: I find our adored DD a handful enough, and am still trying to find the parts of myself that got submerged when we had her.

I am also haunted by the fact that I had a termination at 37 because I got pregnant by someone the first time I slept with them and didn't want to be with him. It was the right decision at the time but I found myself broken six months later, because the one thing I knew was that I wanted a child. It was lifechanging and it led to meeting DP and having our daughter. But I know the shock of that termination is feeding into this - of acting automatically without examining my feelings.

Final thing to say is that this is a longed for child and it looks like our last chance with my own eggs, as I had a missed miscarriage in June: my eggs must have changed a lot in the last couple of years.

Does anyone else have experience of trying to dig down for what they personally want underneath the feelings of others and responsibilities? Am I missing something? I'm trying to think as selfishly as possible to get this right, but maybe that's not right either? (Please be gentle as this is the worst time in my life!)

Thank you.

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WineAndFireside · 17/10/2023 09:30

What an awful decision to have to make. I'm so sorry. I have no advice about what you should do, as it's too personal a decision for that. What I would say is that to hear yourself think it might be a good idea to step away from all the other people who 'pull' on this decision, just for a while. Even just a quiet walk or sitting in a cafe every day. Or get away for a night or two if you can. It's hard to know what you really want when there's a lot of 'noise' around. You sound very self aware and very conscious of the possible consequences of your decision.

Also remember that it is you that will mainly deal with those consequences. Particularly of termination, but probably also of having the baby. So placing yourself at the centre of this is vital for everyone. If you terminate for the sake of your dd and dh that will not lead to a happy family in the long run. You need to put your feelings first.

WineAndFireside · 17/10/2023 09:32

There are aldo specialist charities who offer counselling in this kind of situation. But be very careful to check that they are neutral re abortion ethics.

Jellybott · 17/10/2023 10:42

I went through this exact situation last year, I'm so sorry to hear you're going through it too. It really is an unimaginably awful position to find yourself in. Personally, I looked at the overall picture when coming to a decision - what we knew about the (already poor) health of our unborn baby, what the future might look like for them and for our older child. Sadly for us, we decided to tfmr.
That being said, if you really feel strongly that you can't go through with either continuing or ending the pregnancy, you need to listen to those feelings - it's such a personal choice that only you can make.
I found it helpful to take time off work and have some time alone away from day to day family life to really think about what to do next, maybe get outside and go for a long walk. It can be hard to think about yourself when you're caught up in your usual routines looking after a child. Good luck in whatever you decide ❤

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Aurora5 · 17/10/2023 12:15

Thank you both so much for your replies. Walking away and being on my own is a good idea. I've also managed this morning to have some difficult talks with DP where we explore both options fully rather than let fear guide us. I wish I didn't have the added complication of it being really my last chance at pregnancy as I know how much future pregnancies can and do heal. However at the moment it feels more about this baby anyway, than any future ones. Really appreciate your support and so sorry you have been through this too Jellybot. I have spoken to Arc who were great and also to the DS Association.

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Aurora5 · 18/10/2023 16:45

Bumping just in case anyone else has any experience. I know my headline is a bit obscure! X

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