Can anyone explain the Universal Credit groups please

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My step son stopped working in January, he's 28 years old.
He was placed in the 'Limited Capability to look for work' group and gets around £325 a month Universal Credit.
What does this group mean? He doesn't seem to have to do anything and nobody seems to be checking whether he's applying for jobs or even looking for work. His dad and I are concerned he's falling through the gap.
Is anyone a work coach or similar who can explain what he's supposed to be doing and who sets the expectations.
He lives at home still and it obviously has a negative impact on our cost of living.
Prior to COVID he was in the 'limited capability to look for work and work related activity' due to mental health, after a very delayed reassessment which happened after COVID, he was placed in this other group.
He managed to find a job but crashed out shortly after starting. He doesn't get any extra money due to disability etc and nobody seems to be setting up training or any courses. As he's 28 nobody tells us anything and he's more than happy to sit around doing nothing (literally)
Who can give us advise please?

Is he not paying any money towards household costs out of his UC payments? No one will be setting up training courses for him, he isn’t required to do anything for his money as he has been assessed as having limited capability.

https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/new-to-universal-credit/health-conditions-or-disabilities/#:~:text=You%20have%20limited%20capability%20for,example%2C%20by%20writing%20a%20CV.

2. You have limited capability for work and work-related activityThis means you will not be asked to look for work, or to prepare for work.
You may get extra money as well as your standard allowance.

@PushingPeopleAway op said LCW not LCWRA.

1. You have limited capability for workThis means that although you may not be able to look for work now, you can prepare for work with the aim of working at some time in the future.

Your work coach will discuss your situation and agree next steps to help you start preparing for work. For example, by writing a CV.

Exactly what NoChoiceLeft said.

If you want him to get extra money for disability then he needs to apply for PIP.

Are you not taking any rent from him?

Ahh apologies, I saw the pre covid one when I was looking at which one.

Apologies if unclear. He wouldn't qualify for PIP
Yes, we take rent from him but as he lives with us he doesn't qualify for local housing allowance, so we can't take what he hasn't got. We take a percentage of the £325 which obviously doesn't cover his living costs.
I've read the descriptors, but wondered if there's actually a time limit on the 'working at sometime in the future' as it seems to be a 'how long is a piece of string' statement. He's applied for 1 job since January which was actually a Saturday job. Isn't required to volunteer and is more than happy to do nothing.
He received the 'help preparing his cv' which he tried to convince his dad took 8 months ... He's only had one job since leaving sixth form and that ended over 4 years ago.
So, it looks like this is it until someone decides he's actually in the 'fit for work' category? Do they routinely do reassessment between group 2 and 3 or does he have to indicate that he's now 'ready' ?
At the moment my wage is covering most of his expenses, which as he could work even if it was only part time, feels ridiculous. His dad is retired and we don't qualify for any assistance in our own right.

Sorry, he had one job in a supermarket which ended over 4 years ago and managed a care job for about 6 weeks up to January this year.

He is obliged to let them know if his condition has significantly improved. However unless he does this then yes it won't be re-assessed until his current award ends and currently they are so far behind with re-assessments for both work capability and PIP that people just continue for months , sometimes years past the end of their award.

The element he should be getting is £368 per month but I appreciate he may be paying back and advance repayment or previous dwp debts making it a lesser amount he is actually receiving. he should be getting the £300 cost of living payment soon so maybe could contribute some extra from that ?

Could you try organisations like The Prince’s Trust to help him with getting a job?

LCWRA - extra money and no work or preparing for work commitments.
LCW - no extra money, and expectation to prepare for work (could be going on courses, CV building etc).
Some people seem in LCW seem to be constantly going to the Job Centre for whatever reasons. It seems to be down to the work coach as to how much they make you do. I have a friend who is in the ESA equivalent of LCW and she just goes once every sixth months. They have been encouraging her and giving advice on setting up her own little business selling her craft makes. She has been in that group for over 10 years.

Is interesting to hear that your step son has had an assessment after an initial one that was pre-Covid. I know several people on UC that have not had a reassessment since 2018. Maybe they are going through the backlog now.

What is more important here is what help your step son is getting for his mental health. It sounds like he is not in the right head space to work yet. Forcing him into courses/unsuitable jobs could really set him back.

@XenoBitch many thanks, it looks like he'll remain on LCW then.
Unfortunately because he's 28 we have no idea what help he's getting for his mental health. It seems to involve his GP throwing an ever increasing dose of mitazapine at him and then he chooses to disengage with whatever is offered. There's also massive waiting lists, so he was in a 'peer support' group with our local Mind but that finished and theres nothing else until next year apparently. We're not forcing him into anything, I just wondered what support he gets given to find work as they've decided he's not in the first group anymore.

Is there a Recovery College locally? They offer free courses for people with mental health issues to support their health and well-being.

Are you not able to take more money from him if you're struglging? He sounds like his life is quite comfortable and he has no reason to help himself get better.

Perhaps having to pay his way properly will motivate him.

It sounds like he is not in the right head space to work yet. Forcing him into courses/unsuitable jobs could really set him back.

How can you be set back from doing sweet fuck all?

If OP's step son does genuinely have MH issues (and he was signed off completely for them previously)., then pushing him to go on courses or work could be very bad for his recovery.
He is probably doing "sweet fuck all" as it it easy and does not cause him issues. He needs help to build his way up to getting out of that rut. That does not happen overnight.

OP people in the LCW group are a big focus for the government and are to be seen a lot more often now.

@Xqyz can you show me where you have seen this, please?

@Nochoiceleft https://www.gov.uk/government/news/25-000-people-to-be-helped-into-work-as-government-ramps-up-roll-out-of-flagship-universal-support-scheme

Thank you @Xqyz.
Sounds good doesn't it? Doesn't really mean that people in LCW will be seen more though, unfortunately. Unless they happen to be placed on the scheme.