Teachers how much do you earn?

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I used to teach adults and I miss it, I miss teaching! I’ve got 3 degrees and a speciality, could I retrain and not start at the bottom? I’m fairly established in my career now(55k and room for progression), so would it be worth it?

how much does a head of department earn?
head of year etc?

46000 outer London, could get more if I wanted more responsibility. Been teaching years.

The teacher pay scales are published openly online. Check the union websites.

Payscale attached.

DH is a lead prac in maths - 55k, he’s been teaching 8-9 years. Outside of London.

If you look on the websites of the teaching unions, you can see the scales. Then have a look on TES Jobs for HoY and HoD jobs for idea of the TLRs offered. It'll depend on size of dept and how year groups are organised. A lot of schools employ unqualified staff for pastoral positions now.

You'd be a while catching up with your current pay, and you'd need to be aiming for leadership rather than middle management.

What a weird question? Pay scales are public and nobody can answer that question. You would need to negotiate at interview.

I would think if you want to be a teacher in today’s world, being able to use google would be an advantage to you.

Thank you, I don’t really know what that means though, what’s the difference with M and TLRs

Don’t need to be rude

Thank you, I don’t really know what that means though, what’s the difference with M and TLRs

As a rule, you start on M1 (Mainscale 1).
When you start, you have what is essentially a 2 year probation (know as 'Early Career Teacher' or ECT). In Primary it would be incredibly unusual to start on anything other than the lowest rung of the ladder. It is quite difficult to move schools once you are on Upper Pay Scale as you become too expensive, and school budgets are such that to be able to have enough teachers in front of the pupils, they struggle to afford more experienced teachers, so it is vanishingly unlikely that anyone without experience / and ECT would be paid above M1.

Potentially if you were secondary and a teacher of a real shortage subject, there might be some room for negotiation ???? But I am just speculating.

You wouldn't touch £55K for a long time though.

A TLR is a responsibility allowance - for example, Heads of departments get TLRs. But a Head of English may get a completely different allowance in two schools in the same road. TES jobs will give you an idea.

You start at the bottom of the pay scale M1 and progress each year to the next point until you reach M6. The M stands for Main pay scale. You can also take on TLR's which stands for teaching and learning responsibilities and they vary depending on the level of responsibility. Once you reach M6 you can apply to move on to the Upper Pay scale UPS 1, 2 and 3, middle managers like heads of department usually have a tlr. You can then move onto the leadership scale if you move up to senior leadership.

Not many schools have got enough in their budgets for offering recruitment and retention any more so it's likely you would start at M1.

I wouldn’t even consider it. Teaching adults is nothing like teaching in primary or secondary. It would take you years of skate labour to get to anything above 40k.

*Slave labour

Most queries on MN can be googled. But yet, here we are.

I think perhaps the OP wanted a more personal input from any teachers here.

£68k. Head of Department. But in a private school (outside London). I wouldn't be earning anything like that in a state school. I also think this is high in comparison to many other private schools.