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Just been accused of being a person of interest in a malicious communications offence that happened years ago

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justbeenaccused · 30/09/2023 12:39

I received a letter from the police summoning me to the station of a voluntary interview. I am a person of interest in a malicious comms case that occured in 2019.

Does this mean I am a suspect, or a witness etc.?
How can I find out who reported me ?

OP posts:
Solonge · 30/09/2023 15:11

No. Really that kind of comment is not a hate crime unless you added ‘im going to beat up those noisy neighbours’

MrsGarethSouthgate · 30/09/2023 15:11

Daftasabroom · 30/09/2023 13:03

Do not , under any circumstances, give a voluntary interview to the police. Let them arrest you and do not, under any circumstances, say a word without a lawyer present.

I had dates and times changed on a statement I gave.

A voluntary interview is the exact same procedure as an interview under arrest. It just means that you go in of your own accord at a mutually agreed timeand don’t need to be arrested and placed in a cell. You can have a solicitor present in the same way as when under arrest. All your rights remain in place.

The police will provide disclosure to your solicitor before the interview, i.e. give them the details of the allegation and may also choose to share what evidence they have. This will allow your solicitor to advise you in the best course of action to take, e.g. full admission, no comment or denial account.

If you decline to cooperate and the police arrest you, you have no control over when and where this takes place. It also gives police officers a power of search, which means they could choose to take your electronic devices (phones, computers, laptops etc.) for examination if deemed relevant.

If you have committed an offence and you admit it, depending on your criminal record thus far you may be eligible for a caution. If you don’t admit it and the evidence is sufficient then you will be charged to appear in court.

Rosscameasdoody · 30/09/2023 15:11

Not read the full thread so don’t know if anyone else has covered this, but this sounds like an interview under caution. If so, it’s not voluntary and when you arrive you are effectively under arrest. Do not, under any circumstances attend without legal representation. You’re not a witness, you’re a suspect and you need legal representation when you answer questions.

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Solonge · 30/09/2023 15:19

Colindale is part of the Met.

Greengrassohla · 30/09/2023 15:23

Unless you post /send malicious communications as a norm, surely you can say with certainty that you didn't

You would be surprised what can be classed as ‘hate speech’. It is entirely subjective.

FizzingAda · 30/09/2023 15:25

Have a look at the Black belt Barrister on YouTube. He covers what to do in situations such as this. There is lots of useful, accurate legal advice on his channel, rather than relying on opinions from unqualified people, however well meaning. I'm pretty sure your situation has videos from him. Good luck.

Ducksinthebath · 30/09/2023 15:26

OP if you already have a solicitor why don’t you simply ask them rather than a bunch of unqualified ransoms on the internet?

WallaceinAnderland · 30/09/2023 15:27

If I didn't know what it was about and therefore didn't know whether or not I could have committed an offence I would do this.

  1. Not attend a voluntary interview
  2. Let them arrest me and ask for a solicitor to be present
  3. Make no comment and hear what the accusation was about
  4. Once I had the information regarding the alleged incident I would talk to my solicitor re next steps.

They can only hold you for a short time and if they have no evidence they will drop the matter.

Basically say nothing, do nothing and let them prove it all.

InfiniteTeas · 30/09/2023 15:29

I used to be a criminal solicitor and my firm covered Colindale. I'm no longer practising or in London, but I can recommend a couple of excellent ex-colleagues who still work for the same firm. It's one of the bigger criminal departments in London. Message me if you'd like a couple of names. These are the people I would call if I was ever accused of something.

InfiniteTeas · 30/09/2023 15:31

I should have said, with a voluntary interview, it speeds things up if you arrange a solicitor in advance rather than asking for the duty solicitor on the day. Don't let anyone tell you not to use the duty solicitor though - almost all local solicitors are on the duty rota. They're not some sub-species as some people seem to think - in fact if someone isn't duty qualified, I'd wonder why!

Kinneddar · 30/09/2023 15:40

Brefugee · 30/09/2023 15:07

This is the best advice.
Lawyer up. No comment. Don't sign anything. Don't nod, don't appear as though you agree to anything at all.

Its really not and its a worry that people on here think it is.

Mrsttcno1 · 30/09/2023 15:42

A person of interest is ultimately someone the police think might have been involved in a crime, but who has not (yet) been arrested.

You can refuse to attend the voluntary interview, but truly I don’t know why you would. The most likely outcome from refusing to attend the voluntary one, is that the police then decide it to be “necessary and proportionate” to arrest you to interview you. They are extremely unlikely to just go away, and if you’ve done nothing wrong and this is just malicious lies from whoever, there’s no harm in getting yourself a solicitor and going to the interview.

Nanny0gg · 30/09/2023 15:42

Hanlonsamazer · 30/09/2023 14:04

Prove it…

You do know that 'deleted' files aren't always actually deleted? And can be retrieved?

justbeenaccused · 30/09/2023 15:44

InfiniteTeas · 30/09/2023 15:29

I used to be a criminal solicitor and my firm covered Colindale. I'm no longer practising or in London, but I can recommend a couple of excellent ex-colleagues who still work for the same firm. It's one of the bigger criminal departments in London. Message me if you'd like a couple of names. These are the people I would call if I was ever accused of something.

Are there any differences in 'person of interest' and 'suspect' on a letter from the police? Or do they mean the same thing? Is person of interest someone they have less evidence on?

OP posts:
TreePineapple · 30/09/2023 15:44

Solonge · 30/09/2023 14:38

That isn’t going to be a defence. If you think you might have posted something that was truly offensive or were in the habit of doing that, surely you remember? I would remember being openly offensive, I think most people would.

if you wouldn’t have done something like that, you might be a witness to someone else committing that offence.

I find this post and some of your others on this thread offensive!

Hanlonsamazer · 30/09/2023 15:45

WallaceinAnderland · 30/09/2023 15:27

If I didn't know what it was about and therefore didn't know whether or not I could have committed an offence I would do this.

  1. Not attend a voluntary interview
  2. Let them arrest me and ask for a solicitor to be present
  3. Make no comment and hear what the accusation was about
  4. Once I had the information regarding the alleged incident I would talk to my solicitor re next steps.

They can only hold you for a short time and if they have no evidence they will drop the matter.

Basically say nothing, do nothing and let them prove it all.

I cannot understand why anyone would actively choose to get arrested.

DO NOT DO THIS. If you get the choice to attend voluntarily, please do so.

Being arrested is fucking shit, humiliating, degrading, you are at the whim of a custody Sgt who is on a power trip, expects you to disclose your medical history when they have no medical training at all, they can confiscate your spectacles, wedding ring, and hair bands, just because they decide to. Don’t give these idiots any more power than you absolutely have to.

Passepartoute · 30/09/2023 15:46

Winnading · 30/09/2023 15:00

Absolutely any seemingly mild post can be a hate incident. I can say, and have said, bloody neighbours alarm is driving me bonkers, it's been going for hours now. My neighbours could well take offence to that and get me arrested on a hate crime incident.
Wether it went to court, unlikely, however if I'm stupid, admit I posted it and I meant it, I can have a warning against my name.
Bit of a hindrance if you need a DBS for a role.

This is simply not true.

Hanlonsamazer · 30/09/2023 15:47

Nanny0gg · 30/09/2023 15:42

You do know that 'deleted' files aren't always actually deleted? And can be retrieved?

🙄🙄

Kellogg1 · 30/09/2023 15:51

Go to the voluntary interview or you will be arrested. Take a solicitor with you. They will be given disclosure of some information by the officer interviewing and then you can decide with your solicitor what you need to do in interview before you go in.

If you are arrested you can be held for 24 hours and then for court the next day. If you go voluntarily it will likely take an hour or two.

UsernameChangedYetAgain · 30/09/2023 15:51

Thinking to the cases that have been in the media, have you ever been (knowingly or otherwise) part of a group chat on any messaging platform? All it would take would be for one person in a large group to either fall out with someone (and report it) or be arrested themselves for something entirely unrelated, have their phone seized and then the police have a large number of people who are passive participants in malicious communication. Which is also a criminal offence.

griegwithhimandhim · 30/09/2023 15:52

justbeenaccused · 30/09/2023 13:02

This is only being brought up now bc I accused my cousin of sexual abuse against me and his family have been telling mine that they will report me for something to get back at me as revenge. Shall I tell the police this ?

Blimey. That's a bit of a drip feed.

Yes, go, and ask for a duty solicitor to be present throughout.

UsernameChangedYetAgain · 30/09/2023 15:53

Nanny0gg · 30/09/2023 15:42

You do know that 'deleted' files aren't always actually deleted? And can be retrieved?

This. Everything leaves a ghost of a trace somewhere.

AIstolemylunch · 30/09/2023 15:53

Hanlonsamazer · 30/09/2023 14:31

A local criminal firm is a good start, local to the police force investigating (which might be different to arrest location) because they get to know the weaknesses and weaknesses of the particular force. Either that or take the duty solicitor and go from there.

Thabkyou, appreciated. I've always wondered what to do if this happened to me.

Kellogg1 · 30/09/2023 15:55

WallaceinAnderland · 30/09/2023 15:27

If I didn't know what it was about and therefore didn't know whether or not I could have committed an offence I would do this.

  1. Not attend a voluntary interview
  2. Let them arrest me and ask for a solicitor to be present
  3. Make no comment and hear what the accusation was about
  4. Once I had the information regarding the alleged incident I would talk to my solicitor re next steps.

They can only hold you for a short time and if they have no evidence they will drop the matter.

Basically say nothing, do nothing and let them prove it all.

This is the worst advice I have ever seen.

UsernameChangedYetAgain · 30/09/2023 15:55

You can be held for 24 hours without charge. I wouldn't call that a short time.