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School sports injury

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emark · 24/09/2023 19:57

If your child was representing their High school, in a competitive away sports fixture and received an injury requiring A and E visit, would you expect contact from a school staff member?

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rwalker · 24/09/2023 19:59

Depends on the seriousness
realistically could they do anything, how was the child and would it be any help

PuttingDownRoots · 24/09/2023 19:59

Yes.

LIZS · 24/09/2023 20:02

Priority would be accessing treatment then contact once situation known.

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cansu · 24/09/2023 20:03

not necessarily. As a member of staff I would not want to be bothering the parents. If the injury was very serious then I might enquire the next day. Most people know that there are long waits in a and e. They would have no idea at what time you might be seen. Given you may have a long wait they would also not want to ring or disturb you later as you may be busy eating, sleeping or dealing with family. Calling could also be seen as an intrusion and wouldn't be welcomed by many. If my GP sends me to hospital they are also unlikely to call me three hours later to find out what happened. Why should I expect something different from a teacher?

Junebug22 · 24/09/2023 20:05

I suppose it depends on how it presented at the time (eg child hits their hand in basketball, tells staff member it’s sore but thinks their finger is staved, bruising/swelling develops once home and requires further treatment). Even in that instance I would’ve attempted to say to a parent at pick up (eg looks okay but if concerned get it checked) or would’ve called and at least left a voicemail, or asked the child to call in my presence (depending on their age).

But A&E is for serious injuries/life threatening conditions, so I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t have been informed?!

I did have a pupil once tear her ACL in the middle of a match (and I knew immediately she’d done it) and it took me ages to get in touch with either parent. Multiple voicemails were left and it was really distressing because she was in so much pain but wasn’t an ambulance worthy injury. Dad eventually answered and was actually a bit short with me on the phone -like I was bothering him- until he finally arrived and realised how much pain his poor daughter was in!!

RandomMess · 24/09/2023 20:07

Yes I've been rang a few times to head to A&E!

Junebug22 · 24/09/2023 20:10

Oh wait, do you mean the staff knew the child was getting treatment and no one from school has contacted to find out how they are?

With the ACL girl, I phoned home the next morning -in school hours- to find out how she was. It wouldn’t be appropriate to bother parents in the evening/overnight. Equally if it was an extremely serious injury (head injury for instance) it would be passed onto the Head Teacher and they would make the call re: when is appropriate to phone. In that very serious and sad situation, which I’ve unfortunately dealt with twice in my career, we usually go for a secondary contact for information eg. An aunt.

LIZS · 24/09/2023 20:18

I was reading it as child was with staff at the match and delay was in notifying parents at home.

Or do you mean parents took child to a and e but no follow up call from school? If over a weekend probably expect no call until Monday if child not in school.

Clevs · 24/09/2023 20:19

You need to make the OP cleared.

Did the teacher take the child to A&E and not contact you? Or did you take the child and the teacher didn't do a welfare check the next day? It's not clear which situation it was.

If it was the former then yes I'd expect a call to say my child was in A&E (surely if the child is I see 18 the school should contact the parents anyway). If the latter then I think I'd still expect a call if it was a significant injury.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/09/2023 20:20

As others have said, if the school took the child to A&E from the event (how I initially read OP) then of course they should contact parent.

If the parent took the child to A&E I wouldn't expect any contact from the school - I'd imagine the school would be waiting to hear from parent.

dammit88 · 24/09/2023 20:24

yes

CloudPop · 24/09/2023 20:26

Yes absolutely you should be contacted if your child had an injury requiring A&E

RedAndWhiteCarnations · 24/09/2023 20:44

You mean the child needed an A&E visit whilst away with the school?
YES I’d expect a school staff member t9 right parents asap to let them know.

If you mean the child has been injured but ended up visiting A&E after coming back home, I’d expect that some form filled by school related to the injury.
Im not sure if I’d e une t staff to contact the parents if no information was given to the school about the injury.
But, rightly or wrongly, I wouldn’t expect staff to contact parents to ask how the child is going. I’d expect that to go through the head if year etc…

emark · 24/09/2023 21:32

My daughter acquired an injury during a netball match, another person contacted me brought child home for me to take to A & E.
No contact from her school at all

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LIZS · 24/09/2023 21:39

Who was the other person? How was your dd due to come home?

emark · 24/09/2023 22:01

LIZS · 24/09/2023 21:39

Who was the other person? How was your dd due to come home?

Other person was a friend who knew my daughter. She was getting a lift with sister

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UsingChangeofName · 24/09/2023 22:12

I think if the injured teen's friend's parent / your friend said she would take her home, then I'd be happy with that.

IME, the teacher tends to be at the match on their own, so the parents who have been able / willing to go, support the member of staff.

I'd actually be appreciative someone brought her home so I could go to my local A&E, rather than having to have the added layer of complication of attending A&E in a different HA, or having to go over and collect them.

Junebug22 · 25/09/2023 09:33

I’m usually at a match on my own but there are other staff in the hosting school. It does not take much to call injury time, pause a match to assess the injury and make a call to parent(s). Or to hand my phone/school mobile to another staff member (of the hosting school) and ask them to keep trying on my behalf so I can restart the game. It’s a SCHOOL game, not the Netball World Cup. It obviously depends on the perceived level of injury: a staved finger or twisted ankle I would just ask the child to sit off with an ice pack, phone/text their parent to make them aware but there would be no rush to get them home etc. I wouldn’t feel the need to call parent myself and would mention it at pick up or tell child to ice it etc once home. A suspected broken bone/ligament damage (which is very painful!) then I want to speak to the parent myself and ask them to either collect child or meet us at a local minor injuries unit depending on how far away we are from home school. In that case I would have to forfeit the match.

The problem is, if you’re the sole staff member and you have to go to the hospital with a child, you don’t have anyone else to take the team home for you. So you’re reliant on all parents travelling to the host school to collect their children and technically you can’t leave with injured child until the others are all picked up. The host school isn’t responsible for your pupils! Unfortunately it’s very difficult to get additional staff members to come with you these days :-( People don’t want to give up their time, take on the added responsibility or put themselves in positions like what I’ve described above.

However I would also need confirmation from the child’s parent that they were happy for another child’s parent to take them home -unless they’re on the consent form as an emergency contact. So if the other parent had said to me “look you’re on your own, I can phone Child’s mum and offer to bring Child home so she can get treatment” that would be a HUGE help but I would want to speak to you to ensure that’s okay and to say “it looks like she might’ve done xyz to her knee, I would recommend getting it checked out”.

It sounds to me like a case of poor communication, maybe even inexperience, but no malice in it. I would be inclined to contact the school and ask them to review/share their procedures for incidents like this. Even to highlight the position sole teachers are put in when travelling away with teams. I suspect the teacher was hugely relieved when the other parent offered to get your daughter home because it meant she got home and treatment faster than if she’d had to wait at the away school for you, but it could’ve been handled better.

It’s a shame it’s happened. Sometimes we have to make decisions in a high stress situation and unfortunately it’s not always the right one.

I hope your daughter makes a quick recovery. Netball is a fantastic sport and gives them such great opportunities with their peers!

emark · 25/09/2023 10:28

Junebug22 · 25/09/2023 09:33

I’m usually at a match on my own but there are other staff in the hosting school. It does not take much to call injury time, pause a match to assess the injury and make a call to parent(s). Or to hand my phone/school mobile to another staff member (of the hosting school) and ask them to keep trying on my behalf so I can restart the game. It’s a SCHOOL game, not the Netball World Cup. It obviously depends on the perceived level of injury: a staved finger or twisted ankle I would just ask the child to sit off with an ice pack, phone/text their parent to make them aware but there would be no rush to get them home etc. I wouldn’t feel the need to call parent myself and would mention it at pick up or tell child to ice it etc once home. A suspected broken bone/ligament damage (which is very painful!) then I want to speak to the parent myself and ask them to either collect child or meet us at a local minor injuries unit depending on how far away we are from home school. In that case I would have to forfeit the match.

The problem is, if you’re the sole staff member and you have to go to the hospital with a child, you don’t have anyone else to take the team home for you. So you’re reliant on all parents travelling to the host school to collect their children and technically you can’t leave with injured child until the others are all picked up. The host school isn’t responsible for your pupils! Unfortunately it’s very difficult to get additional staff members to come with you these days :-( People don’t want to give up their time, take on the added responsibility or put themselves in positions like what I’ve described above.

However I would also need confirmation from the child’s parent that they were happy for another child’s parent to take them home -unless they’re on the consent form as an emergency contact. So if the other parent had said to me “look you’re on your own, I can phone Child’s mum and offer to bring Child home so she can get treatment” that would be a HUGE help but I would want to speak to you to ensure that’s okay and to say “it looks like she might’ve done xyz to her knee, I would recommend getting it checked out”.

It sounds to me like a case of poor communication, maybe even inexperience, but no malice in it. I would be inclined to contact the school and ask them to review/share their procedures for incidents like this. Even to highlight the position sole teachers are put in when travelling away with teams. I suspect the teacher was hugely relieved when the other parent offered to get your daughter home because it meant she got home and treatment faster than if she’d had to wait at the away school for you, but it could’ve been handled better.

It’s a shame it’s happened. Sometimes we have to make decisions in a high stress situation and unfortunately it’s not always the right one.

I hope your daughter makes a quick recovery. Netball is a fantastic sport and gives them such great opportunities with their peers!

Thanks for such a comprehensive reply.
It was a torn ligament injury. School have confirmed it was a lack of communication and assumed as friend (who was there for a different sport) called me all was fine.
I am expecting a call from head of department to discuss the matter.

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