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Do I go out too often? Husband seems to have an issue with my friends

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Etam · 24/09/2023 11:59

Let me say first that I have ADHD & ASD, so reading people (including my husband) is often a struggle for me. I also don't have a many really solid friendships. I have a 'core group' of mum friends who I meet up with as a group, but only one of whom I would consider a good friend. She's kind of my only real friend tbh.

My issues are that I love going out for dinner or drinks and to spend time with this group of friends, or similarly the school mums when a group night out is arranged. There are of course months where nothing is arranged at all and I don't see anyone, and then other busy months like Sept / Oct where there are multiple birthdays and catch ups arranged with the various groups. This seems to irritate my husband who always complains that I'm going out too much. He never goes out despite me encouraging him to meet up with his friends or to go to the dads nights. He always says he would rather spend time with his family (almost as if he's trying to use that as an example to me to prove he's a better husband and parent than me because I want to go out).

I have made him aware in advance of my plans for the next month, but he's not pleased and says I'm going out too much. Over the next 3 weeks I have:

A weekend lunch planned with my one good friend, a weekday mums coffee morning, a group dinner, a school mums night out, a house warming party in the evening, and a mums weekend get together. There is a mixture of weekday during school time, weekend day and weekday and weekend evenings. Admittedly this is quite a lot going on versus what would happen in a normal month for me. But I think it's really just due to school being back, plus I can't help the timing of the birthday and house warmings.

My husband is really quite cross and feels me attending all of these is too much. He will try and find ways to put me down about it saying things like I've only just seen them a month ago for a get together, or why are you meeting with X when you're going out with her and along with A,B, C & D the following week. Or he'll say things like they're not really my friends (I do struggle to form solid friendships but I enjoy spending time and catching up with everyone when I can).

The other night when he realised that the weekend lunch plans with my friend that I'd told him about (and checked with him prior that I could go) then actually interfered with something he'd just found out about that he wanted to do with DC1 was going to prevent him from doing that activity he started attacking my friendship with X saying:

Why are you so secretive? Why do you need to meet up? What do you and X talk about? You're going to see her when you meet up with A,B,C & D in a couple weeks anyway. I don’t understand what you two have in common. She’s not exactly in the best place in life. She lives in a dream world. God knows what she’s going to do when she gets divorced. I feel she has a negative influence on you. You need to align yourself with better people in life”

He doesn't approve of her getting divorced and thinks she's really going to struggle financially after and is generally disapproving of her current lifestyle and spending habits. I don't know what his issue is but I think he feels slightly threatened that she has filed for divorce and thinks it will give me ideas or something.

I know this was long but I'm just feeling super frustrated about what he's said about my friendship. But I'm also wondering if he has a valid point about me going out too much. What is an acceptable amount of times to go out with people? How often do you go out for dinner or drinks to catch up with friends?

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Motheranddaughtertotwo · 24/09/2023 12:03

Your husband is insecure, controlling and judgemental, has he always been like this? He’s worried that you might be “led astray” as if you don’t have your own brain and he’s jealous that you enjoy time of your own. I couldn’t stay with someone like that.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 24/09/2023 12:04

He sounds horrible and controlling. Social stuff does tend to come along in clumps - that’s just life. As long as he also has the opportunity to do his thing, whatever that might be, I really don’t think he has anything to complain about.

Theimpossiblegirl · 24/09/2023 12:05

Has he got any friends to do stuff with? Maybe he's jealous.

It doesn't sound like you do too much at all.

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Mstxxx · 24/09/2023 12:06

YANBU - you're entitled to a social life and just because he doesn't seem to have one or be interested in one, doesn't entitle him to be bitter that you do. If you were going out multiple times a month and not coming home until the next morning or getting yourself in a state every time I could possibly understand it a bit more but it doesn't sound like you're doing that.

A top tip from me is that I don't tell my partners about my friend's issues if they wouldn't know otherwise because it allows them to form their own opinion that is usually not good and they can use it against you if they want unfortunately.

If I was you I would keep doing what you're doing and just act oblivious whenever he starts being bitter about it. Alternatively I would bluntly say, 'I'm not going to stop seeing my friends. I am entitled to a social life just as you are too.' And again just keep doing what you are doing. Keep an eye out for any more controlling behaviour x

theduchessofspork · 24/09/2023 12:07

No it’s completely normal - in fact if that’s a busy 3 weeks I’d say you have a fairly quiet social life (nothing wrong with that).

Your husband is disturbingly controlling. Tell him firmly that friendships are important, and he is being unreasonable.

Really watch this doesn’t escalate. It has the potential to become abusive.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/09/2023 12:08

he feels slightly threatened that she has filed for divorce and thinks it will give me ideas or something

Let's hope she does. Because it sounds a very healthy way to live with having a wide social network and support - unlike what he wants for you, which is to be indoors under supervision.

Cowlover89 · 24/09/2023 12:09

YADNBU X

LaviniasBigBloomers · 24/09/2023 12:12

I 100% think you would find your friendships and your 'place' in the world a million times easier if you didn't have a husband controlling your social life, questioning your friendships and making you account for your every move. I also bet a few of these women would be upset by you saying you only have one friend. You sound busy, social and happy - or at least, you would do if you were left to just get on with things.

He's sucking all your confidence and joy from what sounds like a perfectly normal, perfectly sociable life.

smilesup · 24/09/2023 12:12

Fuck that. I go out about twice or three times a week. DH can do what he likes. We do stuff together too but he prefers being at home more and I don't. He sounds like a controlling, insecure man. Has he no friends?
I bet he is worried your divorced friend will help you see the light and leave his sorry arse.

DelilahBucket · 24/09/2023 12:13

Like you, we have varying levels of social things going on. Some of them we do together i.e we went to my friend's birthday party last weekend, and we hosted a dinner party yesterday, then next weekend I'm out with my friends and DH is out with his. I'm out at least one morning and one evening a week with my hobby, DH sometimes goes out mid week or he'll go for a quick drink after work on a Friday with his mate.
Either way, we have a good balance of spending time together, and separately, and I think that is important. Do you actually do things together with all this "family time" he refers to, or is it all sat around at home watching TV or on phones?
On the other hand if your DH is demanding that you only ever spend time with him, that is an issue and is very controlling as it cuts you off (been there, done that).

alldakatz · 24/09/2023 12:26

Sounds like he wants to be the only person in your life.

TeddyFaces · 24/09/2023 12:29

He sounds like a clingy controlling arse.
I can't imagine my husband commenting on how many times I go out, where to and who with.
He'd be told where to go if he did!
You're an adult op, not a child and he's not your father. You need to tell him to back off.

SwedishEdith · 24/09/2023 12:39

How old are your kids and over the next three weeks, how many evenings would that be? Do you work? Just trying to get the full picture.

CelestialSausage · 24/09/2023 12:46

six socials over three weeks is not a busy social life. The issue is your husband. I used to have a boyfriend like him, very judgmental about others, putting people down all the time, he tried to unsuccessfully drive a wedge between me and the people and activities I enjoyed.

Lookingforasilverlining · 24/09/2023 12:59

How old are the kids? I’m it difficult to visualise how much time your away from them vs how much you’re seeing them over the next few weeks.

fiddlesticksandotherwords · 24/09/2023 13:07

It's all very well him saying he wants to spend time with his family, but you spend time with the family constantly, and need a break from it!

I suspect that this is as much to do with him not wanting him to be solely responsible for the dc as it is him wanting to keep you away from your friends because he wants you all to himself.

Don't let him browbeat you into giving up your friendships. Flowers

Etam · 24/09/2023 13:11

Thank you all for the replies. I'm glad to hear that this amount of social things going on is not excessive.

To answer a few of your questions that I can remember:

No he rarely ever goes out despite me encouraging him to. He does not have any shared interests with the school dads so never goes out with them. He has several friends, but generally catches up with them over the phone rather than in person. He does however do his own hobby away from home 3 nights a week plus one day on the weekend. Usually for about an hour and a half. I don't have any regular hobbies or activities like that I do.

We regularly do things as a family going to National Trusts on the weekend, soft plays, etc plus the children have Saturday activities. We do not however do things as a couple. I gave up on that long ago. We don't have any family nearby who can watch the children for an evening and he won't get a babysitter because of the cost. If we go out to dinner it's always as a family's. So if I want to do something like go to a show or restaurant I've wanted to try I need to take the initiative to find friends who will go with me. Then he moped around saying how I hate spending time with him. He was invited to the house warming, but said he won't come because we'd need a baby sitter and he has nothing in common with the other husbands.

I do work. Generally from home but I go into the office 1 day a week, but some times it can be 2-3 days if I've got a project on that I need to be there in person for. He finds this very inconvenient.

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Etam · 24/09/2023 13:28

Mstxxx · 24/09/2023 12:06

YANBU - you're entitled to a social life and just because he doesn't seem to have one or be interested in one, doesn't entitle him to be bitter that you do. If you were going out multiple times a month and not coming home until the next morning or getting yourself in a state every time I could possibly understand it a bit more but it doesn't sound like you're doing that.

A top tip from me is that I don't tell my partners about my friend's issues if they wouldn't know otherwise because it allows them to form their own opinion that is usually not good and they can use it against you if they want unfortunately.

If I was you I would keep doing what you're doing and just act oblivious whenever he starts being bitter about it. Alternatively I would bluntly say, 'I'm not going to stop seeing my friends. I am entitled to a social life just as you are too.' And again just keep doing what you are doing. Keep an eye out for any more controlling behaviour x

Regarding the not telling my husband about my friends, he knows the husband of this particular friend and did actually get on quite well with him when we would all see each other. I don’t regularly update my husband on the further conversations I have with my friend about her life and where they’re at with the divorce, but he does ask. But I have always made a point of keeping my replies to him about it quite vague so he cannot form judgements

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SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 24/09/2023 14:27

Ok, your update makes him sound even more of a controlling shit.

wizzywig · 24/09/2023 14:30

He has a 3 night a week hobby?! You go out and enjoy yourself! Have a drink for me

frozendaisy · 24/09/2023 14:48

Send him a WhatsApp message the month before of what you have planned so he has it in black and white.

Whether he takes notice that's his problem but at least he can't argue you didn't tell him

Ask him how he would feel if you asked him to give up his hobby to spend all of his time at home? Your hobby is seeing people.

List off all the things having friends and a social life is good for.

Tell him he is being a grumpy, boring, controlling, judgement prick and as long as you do spend plenty of time with him, kids, doing your duties to the household you are not going to not see your friends.

I would also say that you didn't get married to live under effectively house arrest.

Not sure if you can tell I have little patience for men who think they rule everything because they just don't. And I don't care if they are all hurt when their dumb brains realise this that's their problem it will never be mine. And it shouldn't be yours OP

I would also say if he is going to be a grumpy sourpuss I will find more things to do out of the house not fewer because I am not staying in to be subjected to this all the time.

Etam · 24/09/2023 20:14

frozendaisy · 24/09/2023 14:48

Send him a WhatsApp message the month before of what you have planned so he has it in black and white.

Whether he takes notice that's his problem but at least he can't argue you didn't tell him

Ask him how he would feel if you asked him to give up his hobby to spend all of his time at home? Your hobby is seeing people.

List off all the things having friends and a social life is good for.

Tell him he is being a grumpy, boring, controlling, judgement prick and as long as you do spend plenty of time with him, kids, doing your duties to the household you are not going to not see your friends.

I would also say that you didn't get married to live under effectively house arrest.

Not sure if you can tell I have little patience for men who think they rule everything because they just don't. And I don't care if they are all hurt when their dumb brains realise this that's their problem it will never be mine. And it shouldn't be yours OP

I would also say if he is going to be a grumpy sourpuss I will find more things to do out of the house not fewer because I am not staying in to be subjected to this all the time.

We have a shared online calendar that we put appointments, outings, children's activities, etc in, so he gets a notification every time I put it in the calendar.

The other issue with what you're suggesting is he's a major user of the DARVO technique. I generally try and avoid engaging in any argument with him because no matter what I say, he will find a way to flip it on me to make him the victim and me the bad one.

For example if I was to tell him it's 'healthy' for me to go out and socialise, and given the fact he has no interest I have to find other people to go out with, he would get all upset and say that it's me that doesn't want to spend time with him. Or that I'd rather spend time with my friends rather than him or him and the children because I don't like him etc. And he will also have no shame at all in making these accusations to me in front of the children to ensure I look like the bad one 🫤

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Glasgowqueen · 10/02/2024 19:41

Do you earn your own money? Is he worried about the financial side of your social life.I work and meet up with my friends also go out with husband and family.Do you go out as a family ?

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