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I discovered a website to geek over -national grid live

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Rollerbird · 19/09/2023 20:41

National Grid Live
https://grid.iamkate.com/

At the moment with it being so Windy we are generating 55% of our electricity from wind! Which I find fascinating.

Anyone else watch this site?

National Grid: Live

Shows the live status of Great Britain’s electric power transmission network

https://grid.iamkate.com

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/09/2023 20:43

Why are out power prices so high if we can generate that amount of energy at times?!

Rollerbird · 19/09/2023 20:57

Well, it's not all the time .
They have to buy gas and store it to generate electricity to cope with demand being more than supply.
It's a business to make money.
We use less now and they want to charge us more so they get their profits
Government wants it to be more expensive to encourage us to use less so we meet our carbon reduction target faster?
Don't know really?

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BigSwigs · 19/09/2023 21:08

Quick, everyone turn their lights down and let's see what happens 🤣

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Steakandquinoa · 19/09/2023 21:27

Haha, that’s cool, thanks!

Butteredtoast55 · 19/09/2023 21:41

My DS is obsessed with this tracking. It fills him with delight when renewable/sustainable energy is the chief source of power.

hoteltango · 19/09/2023 21:42

That's very interesting. Thanks for the link.

I recall a documentary, some decades ago, about how the national power supply was managed. The bloke in charge had to check the TV schedules, so he could power up when Coronation Street finished and everyone put the kettle on. Or something like that. It's interesting to see how the power usage varies these days.

Tregothnanny · 19/09/2023 21:42

I use this website for my job. I can confirm its awesomeness 😁

PuzzledObserver · 19/09/2023 21:51

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/09/2023 20:43

Why are out power prices so high if we can generate that amount of energy at times?!

Largely because of our fucked up broken electricity market. The wholesale price is always set by the price of the highest marginal producer required to meet demand - which is usually gas. And although gas has dropped back from its ridiculously high peaks of last year, it is still historically very expensive, because of the international situation.

However, at times like this, when renewables are plentiful, the price on the spot market drops like a stone, and can even go negative. This is visible in Octopus’s Agile tariff, where the price changes every 30 minutes based on the spot market price. Go to mysmartenergy.uk and find your region on the Agile drop down at he top of the page, you will see what people on Agile are paying just now, because they are plugged in to the wholesale spot market.

If you are on a standard variable or a fixed tariff, you pay the same price for your electricity all the time, and the price changes every three months. Suppliers - well, Ofgem mainly - set prices based on predictions of market conditions. But the actual cost of producing electricity varies widely - as does demand. And the supply of electricity is variable as well. Gas and nuclear power stations can be turned up or down, to an extent, interconnectors allow us to to trade electricity with other countries, but wind and solar work when they do. The whole job of National Grid ESO is to balance the grid - ensuring that the voltage and frequency are kept within prescribed limits. One of the mechanisms used to do this is differential pricing. Consumers and companies on tariffs with differential prices will adjust when they use energy in order to reduce their overall cost. There is an incentive to use energy when it’s cheaper - that will be at times of high supply and low demand - and to avoid using it when it’s more expensive, times of high demand and/or low supply.

As the amount of renewable generating capacity increases, we will need less and less gas, so prices will come down. Government could accelerate that change, in lots of ways. Easing planning constraints on onshore wind, increasing investment in transmission capacity, supporting large scale energy storage facilities to help damp down the variations in supply which are inherent in wind and solar - to name but a few. And also reform the market so that the automatic link between gas and electricity prices is broken. The effect of all of those would be to preferentially reduce the electricity, helping to accelerate the move towards lower carbon heating and transport.

Rollerbird · 19/09/2023 21:51

Butteredtoast55 · 19/09/2023 21:41

My DS is obsessed with this tracking. It fills him with delight when renewable/sustainable energy is the chief source of power.

I'm getting obsessed too haha

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BabyofMine · 19/09/2023 21:56

hoteltango · 19/09/2023 21:42

That's very interesting. Thanks for the link.

I recall a documentary, some decades ago, about how the national power supply was managed. The bloke in charge had to check the TV schedules, so he could power up when Coronation Street finished and everyone put the kettle on. Or something like that. It's interesting to see how the power usage varies these days.

I remember watching that, it lives rent free in my head and I think of it about half the time I turn the kettle on 😂

deplorabelle · 19/09/2023 22:25

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/09/2023 20:43

Why are out power prices so high if we can generate that amount of energy at times?!

Until we get gas out of the grid, the price of gas dictates the price of electricity.

MaggieFS · 19/09/2023 22:33

That is interesting, thank you.

Have you seen her inflation and price calculator too? It's fab, I've never seen one done so simply.

helpfulperson · 19/09/2023 23:04

Oh Great..... now I have another website to check on a regular basis alongside Flight Radar, lighting tracker, marine tracker, snowplough live! I either need to get out more or lock my phone in a safe.

Laughingravy · 20/09/2023 00:08

My Dp loved the recent Channel 4 series Guy Martin's Great British Power Trip. The part about the National Grid control centre - somewhere secret and guarded with guns - was pretty interesting but not so much where he did some high pylon training
Still on Channel 4 catch up

duckydoo234 · 20/09/2023 00:16

I also use this and similar websites for my job. Unbefuckinglievable to get to paid to spend hours on stuff like this. Also try www.realtimetrains.co.uk. I regularly have to spend time on this and I love it.

Realtime Trains

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Tregothnanny · 20/09/2023 07:29

Snow plough live 😱 on it......

Dbank · 20/09/2023 08:36

OP, Thanks for the link
Here's another one to worry about, but one that hopefully doesn't change much...

Radioactivity Environmental Monitoring
https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Advanced.aspx

Radiological Maps - European Commission

The Radioactivity Environmental Monitoring (REM) group of the European Commission Joint Research Centre (JRC)

https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Advanced.aspx

hesaidshesaidtheysaid · 20/09/2023 09:11

duckydoo234 · 20/09/2023 00:16

I also use this and similar websites for my job. Unbefuckinglievable to get to paid to spend hours on stuff like this. Also try www.realtimetrains.co.uk. I regularly have to spend time on this and I love it.

This one is great too, it's linked to the live departure boards at train stations

hesaidshesaidtheysaid · 20/09/2023 09:12

tiger.worldline.global/home

BitOutOfPractice · 20/09/2023 09:15

Oh that is marvellous. Love that thank you!

working in the electricity generation industry in the late 80s I would never have dreamed those figures would happen. Only 1% of electricity generated from coal over the last year. Thatcher’s dream!

Wanttobekind · 20/09/2023 09:22

@hoteltango and @BabyofMine I watched that too in science lessons at school. Still love the way they had to pick the moment to let all the water whoosh down the mountain reservoir in Wales to make sure everyone could get their cuppa in the ad breaks!

CharSiu · 20/09/2023 09:25

Friends DH worked in the power industry for years. He said a very cold windless winter would be the reason the UK could ration power or have cuts.

annabelindajane · 27/04/2025 12:53

The reason our electricity is soooo expensive is because of the huge subsidies paid to companies who own wind farms . It’s a scandal we are all buying into

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