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Childrens father been a twat!

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DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:16

Hi... So my children's father is trying to stop me taking them abroad, I'm due to go a week tomorrow, Apparently he has seen a solicitor today, And they told him to 'Email me' to ask me not to take them abroad don't know how legit that is or if a solicitor would advise this? So of course I said No & Unless I have a legal document in writing in front of me stating my children can't go abroad before next Tuesday I shall be taking them? So he said he will be taking it further to get this order in place within the next week, I don't know how long these sort of things take, So im just wondering has anyone else been through anything like this or something simular, It's all stressing me out 🤦‍♀️ Of course I want them to come on holiday with me, I'd still happily take them court order or not but don't want to get myself into any trouble.

Help 🤦‍♀️

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Birchvalley · 19/09/2023 20:18

What’s the reason he gives you to not take them out of the country?

Rainraingoawaycomebackanotherday · 19/09/2023 20:18

I think you need to speak to a solicitor ASAP.

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DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:21

Because he thinks my children are unsafe around my new partner, Well who I've I've with for 2 years and we've been on holidays before together. It's just bitterness if anything.

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DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:22

I've also seen and spoken to a solicitor, But they aren't been very helpful to be honest

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CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 19/09/2023 20:22

I thought you had to get permission from the other parent before booking a holiday etc as they can get the children stopped at passport control. Why didn't you speak to him first? And absolutely get your own legal advice asap.

Rainraingoawaycomebackanotherday · 19/09/2023 20:23

DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:21

Because he thinks my children are unsafe around my new partner, Well who I've I've with for 2 years and we've been on holidays before together. It's just bitterness if anything.

Have you done a Claire/Sarah’s law request?

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DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:24

No so legally you don't, As long as have proof of return flight home, and not going out country for longer than 28 days and tbh I've never asked his permission before, And he's never had a problem before, He's not exactly dad of the year, and he's in and out of my girls life like you wouldn't believe,

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CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 19/09/2023 20:24

You must get the permission of everyone with parental responsibility for a child or from a court before taking the child abroad.

Taking a child abroad without permission is child abduction.

Parental rights and responsibilities

Who has parental responsibility for looking after children, and how to apply for parental responsibility if you were unmarried to the mother or are not on the birth certificate

https://www.gov.uk/parental-rights-responsibilities

GrazingSheep · 19/09/2023 20:25

Are they in school? Is that something he would be concerned about?

saffronsoup · 19/09/2023 20:26

That is generally the advice given to some on here. To legally block their ex husbands from taking the kids out of the country.

If you read up on threads about women whose ex husbands want to take the kids to visit family in other counties, the responses are pretty much a resounding no and block that and hide the passports and don’t ever let him take them etc

maybe your ex read this board and saw how strongly most feel about this and that few would support the other parent in taking the kids out of the country.

Stressfordays · 19/09/2023 20:26

I didn't get my exs permission to take my dc abroad. But he has nothing to do with them so had no clue we were going. Your ex can call the airline and stop you without a court order.

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DanM29 · 19/09/2023 20:26

They should be but again its never bothered him before, He's never had a problem before, Until now, He has only just started having contact again with them, Hadn't seen them for over 4 months, Now thinks he can do this

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CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 19/09/2023 20:29

He can do it though. So you either talk to him and allay his fears, or get a court order permitting you to take them. Failure to do either (now a solicitor is involved) could result in serious trouble for you.

GrazingSheep · 19/09/2023 20:38

Does he have parental responsibility?

GrazingSheep · 19/09/2023 20:38

Will he get fines for them missing school?

Onceuponaheartache · 19/09/2023 20:41

Unfortunately he can apply for a prohibitive steps order to stop you taking them.

As others have said technically you need permission from the other parent if they have PR although many don't and most airports don't check.

Find a better family solicitor and get decent advice.

Tired6789 · 19/09/2023 20:42

Saw this online...it sounds like depends on whether you have a child arrangement order. Maybe speak to a different solicitor if yours not helping?

If you are parents who are separated, it may be that you need the consent of the other parent before you can take your children abroad. This will depend on whether any court orders, child arrangement orders or residence orders are in place.
Parental ResponsibilityRegardless of contact orders or residence orders, parental responsibility is key to taking a child out of the country. Parental responsibility is a range of legal duties and authorities covering various duties regarding the child’s care, from changing their name to where they go to school.
You must get permission from anyone with parental responsibility to take a child abroad unless you have a child arrangement order that says the child must live with you. If that is the case, you can take the child for up to one month without the consent of the other parent, but for over 28 days you must still get permission from the other parent.

Get permission to take a child abroad

Permission from parents and courts to take a child on holiday abroad and avoid abduction

https://www.gov.uk/permission-take-child-abroad

Tired6789 · 19/09/2023 20:43

I'm not sure why that link showing but I read it on a legal website not the gov link

ivegotthisyeah · 19/09/2023 20:44

I would just take them! Just bring them back ☺️

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