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Spending this afternoon imagining the simplicity of life 300 years ago…

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Gwendimarco · 16/09/2023 14:17

Around 1700ish, pre industrial revolution.
Life would not be easy of course. Childbirth and infant mortality, no rights for women or the poor, work was hard and physical for many.

Life was hard, for sure.

But it was also simpler.

Imagine knowing (or at least expecting) that your grandchildren’s work and way of life would probably be much the same as your grandfather and great grandfather’s.

Imagine never really knowing many people or hearing much news beyond your own village.

Visiting another village could be a day’s travel, if not more. Letters would be delivered by boys on horseback - the Royal Mail isn’t invented yet.

You know where everything in your house was grown or made, and probably the person who grew or made it.

Most people are illiterate, entertainment is stories and theatre with your local community.

Spirituality and religion are how you and everyone around you unquestioningly (for the most part) navigate the trials and tribulations of daily life.

I couldn’t live that life now, accustomed as I am to the 21st century. But I do think wistfully of the slower pace and simplicity.

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BonnieLisbon · 17/09/2023 17:29

Gwendimarco · 16/09/2023 14:26

I will happily admit that I am no historian!
Educate me?

Like I say, I don’t deny that life was harsher in many ways.

It's an interesting thread to have started though. Doesn't matter if you're not an expert. (Nor am i)

sadaboutmycat · 17/09/2023 17:54

MargaretThursday · 16/09/2023 14:22

Good chance you wouldn't be here to think about it. Even assuming you survived infanthood life expectancy was about 37 years. Ah, the simplicity! Life, work and death. very simple.

That's a myth. It's proof why range is important when dealing with averages.
Many people lived till 70 (see the bible, 3 score years and 10) and many died in infancy. Hence the average being 35-37. The range is too big for the average to be a representative of the norm 😊

sadaboutmycat · 17/09/2023 17:56

Mrsjayy · 16/09/2023 14:32

Infant mortality poverty .hunger doesn't sound a great way of life children sent to work unless you were landowners or gentry life would have been tough and miserable imo.

And the daughters of landowners and gentry married off as children to a man of their father's choice to keep the land in agreed lines.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 17/09/2023 18:09

@sadaboutmycat only 10% of people born in 1850 made it to 80.

Once surviving childhood, life expectancy rose to 57.

25% didn't make it past the age of 5.

GodDammitCecil · 17/09/2023 19:31

Zwellers · 17/09/2023 12:22

EarringsandLipstick perfect mumsnet there. Just because you know about something doesn't mean it well known in general.

Kpo58 seroiusly. You really reckon that poor people could have spare time to go fishing/ do if without been accussed of poaching and suffering severe consequences. Fishing rights existed back then.

You make a valid point in paragraph 1.

And then do exactly what you’ve accused the pp of in paragraph 2….!

DanielsDancingMonkey · 17/09/2023 19:38

Try watching/ reading some of Ruth Goodman’s TV programmes/ books. She is brilliant at illustrating the life of women through the ages.

I would have died at age 3. If I’d made it to adulthood, I’d have died in childbirth along with my second child. My first child would be dead of an infection. Ah, the simple life. 😁

BonnieLisbon · 17/09/2023 21:57

NotAKangaroo · 16/09/2023 21:31

I too am surprised by how angry some people seem to be getting, as if you're personally insulting them and their 18th century struggles.

😄

WithIcePlease · 17/09/2023 22:38

Earringsandlipstick The reference attached from Redrobyn21 talked of the historian writing about sleep and it was not known about by him and no one I have mentioned it to knew either. I do not think it's widely known

SharonEllis · 18/09/2023 07:31

WithIcePlease · 17/09/2023 22:38

Earringsandlipstick The reference attached from Redrobyn21 talked of the historian writing about sleep and it was not known about by him and no one I have mentioned it to knew either. I do not think it's widely known

See Sleep in Early Modern England by Sasha Handley which was written before that article!

TheDaphne · 18/09/2023 07:44

EarringsandLipstick · 17/09/2023 14:44

EarringsandLipstick perfect mumsnet there. Just because you know about something doesn't mean it well known in general.

Odd comment. 'Perfect mumsnet'? 🤔

I was surprised it wasn't more well-known. It's a fairly core part of societal history 🤷🏻‍♀️

No need to be riled by that.

Are we talking about biphasic sleep? Yes, it’s widely known, I would have said. I’m no historian, and I have known about it for decades — no idea how, just in general knowledge terms.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/09/2023 20:46

WithIcePlease · 17/09/2023 22:38

Earringsandlipstick The reference attached from Redrobyn21 talked of the historian writing about sleep and it was not known about by him and no one I have mentioned it to knew either. I do not think it's widely known

When my dd was 14, she used to have random showers at 3.00 am.

Her reasoning was that people used to have 2 sleeps

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