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Sponge cake double layer turned into solid hard slab of almost egg? f

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Stupendousseptember · 16/09/2023 13:39

What did we do, choclate mouse and sponge cake?

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Smittenkitchen · 16/09/2023 14:13

What is the name of the recipe?

GolgafrinchamB · 16/09/2023 14:18

I recognise that, it’s an Annie Bell, I think!

OK, that’s a fatless sponge. You do need the egg and sugar to be super light and fluffy, and lightly fold the flour through.

It uses larger than standard tins, too.

You have to handle the batter INCREDIBLY lightly and gently. In this case, you’ve knocked all the air out.

GolgafrinchamB · 16/09/2023 14:19

Did you follow the instructions and beat it for 10 actual minutes? That is so much longer than you think!

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Helpwhatwouldyoudonext · 16/09/2023 14:20

It's the mice. They're very dense.

MmedeGouge · 16/09/2023 14:21

It’s a traditional fat less sponge.
Did you whisk the egg enough?
Also the flour needs to be folded in, very gently, in a figure of eight motion. Minimal folding - just enough to incorporate the flour- no more.
A fat less sponge needs a very light hand.

Stupendousseptember · 16/09/2023 14:22

@GolgafrinchamB

Wow, yes it is!!
First time we have cooked from her book, i think she used to do dailymail cakes?

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NumberFortyNorhamGardens · 16/09/2023 14:24

Could be a number of things. ‘Folding in’ the flour can easily go wrong; I would have used self-raising instead of plain, too, to ensure the cake rose. Oven temperatures vary, so invest in an oven thermometer (available from Dyas/Amazon or similar). Your oven may have been too cool and/or too humid for the job; you need a reasonably hot fan oven.

Worth pointing out that this ‘cake’ isn’t a cake at all, really, but a soufflé. And any recipe writer who thinks that a soufflé can support a double layer needs to go (back) to cookery school.

GolgafrinchamB · 16/09/2023 14:25

I don’t know, but I’ve had that book for around 15+ years a d it’s a good one.

Her lemon drizzle is fantastic! I also recommend the chocolate cake made with oil and decorated with Smarties - absolutely foolproof and stays moist for days. I use her amounts of coffee and walnut to make two 20cm sandwich cakes, it’s a good one too

fairislecable · 16/09/2023 14:28

If you look at other fat free sponges it is usually 75g flour to 3 eggs, therefore I think it is a misprint and should have been 150g of flour.

Stupendousseptember · 16/09/2023 14:29

@GolgafrinchamB

Thank you, I've also got the Xmas one but never really used it.

Thank you everyone for the great tips!

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Stupendousseptember · 16/09/2023 14:29

Unfortunately it was a bday cake but we will definitely try again and be "lighter of hand".

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stclair · 16/09/2023 14:50

@GolgafrinchamB which Annie Bell book is it please? I need one which has some foolproof cakes!

loislovesstewie · 16/09/2023 15:00

You need to fold the flour in quickly but lightly with a metal spoon so you don't knock the air out. If you are too heavy handed the air ,which makes the sponge rise, will just be beaten out, and you will be left with a 'biscuit' texture.

GolgafrinchamB · 16/09/2023 15:22

stclair · 16/09/2023 14:50

@GolgafrinchamB which Annie Bell book is it please? I need one which has some foolproof cakes!

Gorgeous Cakes

Nigella's Domestic Goddess also has some good reliable cakes too.

Puccini1900 · 16/09/2023 15:26

Why don't you just make a normal sponge?

175g of butter, flour and caster sugar
3 eggs

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StoatofDisarray · 16/09/2023 16:00

Puccini1900 · 16/09/2023 15:26

Why don't you just make a normal sponge?

175g of butter, flour and caster sugar
3 eggs

X

This!

stclair · 16/09/2023 16:25

@GolgafrinchamB super, thanks

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/09/2023 17:44

200g each of fat, SR flour and caster sugar, and 4 large eggs is what I use for a 2 x 20 cm tin sandwich sponge cake. Roughly 25 mins in the oven at 160 fan.

Always works fine. Mind you my trusty old Kenwood Chef does all the hard work.

Bambooshoot · 16/09/2023 17:45

Plain flour and no raising agent (baking powder, baking soda etc) = quiche

Bambooshoot · 16/09/2023 17:49

Or at least it should say to separate the eggs and whisk up just the whites to get some air in the batter.

Reallybadidea · 16/09/2023 17:55

Bambooshoot · 16/09/2023 17:49

Or at least it should say to separate the eggs and whisk up just the whites to get some air in the batter.

That's not how you make a fatless sponge though. And you don't need baking powder either. You whisk up the whole eggs with caster sugar for ages to incorporate lots of air then very gently fold in flour. It makes a very light sponge. You can even roll them up to make a traditional Swiss roll.

NumberFortyNorhamGardens · 16/09/2023 20:57

It sounds like you need a pretty powerful motor on your electric mixer to get the batter to the right consistency. A stand mixer, rather than an own-brand hand-held.

loislovesstewie · 17/09/2023 11:57

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER I think the point is though, that recipe is a Victoria sandwich, a sponge is fatless and doesn't have self raising flour. It only rises because enough air has been whisked into the mixture.I've made Sharlotka cake this morning and I've had to leave it to whisk for ages to get it right.

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