Lucy Letby appeal

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Sorry if not allowed to discuss here but just seem that this vile creature plans to appeal against her original sentence as per yesterday’s news. Her defence team is leading this potential appeal.

WTAF?!

They haven’t reached a verdict on is it 6 or 7 poor other little babies who died and she’s suspected, I thought?

So sad for the poor parents and babies still.

No evidence of insulin, no evidence of death by air embolism, no evidence of over feeding

What was the jury listening to for ten months? If you want to be taken seriously for God’s sake don’t try deny facts to do it, even Letby’s defence didn’t do that.

you do know a virus test has no bearing on Pseudomonas, which is a germ, why you invoked virus test I have no idea, leave you to it.

Comprehension is just not your strong point, is it?

To spell it out, I did not invoke a virus test. I was quoting @HazelE123, who did, and I pointed out in the very post that you quoted that pseudomonas is a bacterium. If you really want to make a thing of it, direct your comments to her.

Apologies for typo was 2012 not 2022, incidentally it has been discovered again in the new Belfast maternity facility.

www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/potentially-deadly-pseudomonas-bacteria-found-26942830

Yes maybe a mix up there. It was me who said they tested for bacteria but not for viruses, in an earlier post. But wasn't suggesting pseudomonas was a virus :-)

Just wondered how many bacteria a blood screening tests for and whether it would include pseudomonas unless specifically requested to test for that.

Who are "our London people"?

I've never read Tattle in my life, but all the court documents relating to Ms Adam's various legal woes, her history of violence and abuse, and the fact she was found by a court to be legally not competent, are all a matter of public record.

She has also been banned from a number of forums for sockpuppeting and harassing and threatening anyone who does not agree with this conspiracy theory she has invented.

Apparently that site has a number of professionals join up including medical and legal professionals.

That's very obviously a lie, and no one except Adams herself could possibly claim to have access to information about who is visiting her website.

I’m really not this interesting for this level of attention

More nonsense. There was sewage reported in the sinks on one occasion at the Chester Neo natal unit. The issue was quickly fixed and in the meantime the doctors and nurses were requested to use an an alternative set of sinks to clean their hands.

NHS hospitals routinely check the water supply for bacteria such as legionnaires and pseudomonas - sadly for the LL is really innocent brigade there wasn’t any pseudomonas at the Chester Hospital at the relevant time (or more accurately there wasn’t any elevated level of it).

even more damning for this awful random theory is that only one of the relevant dead or attacked babies had the pneumonia which this bacteria causes - and that baby didn’t die of pneumonia…

you can be sure that if you had seven babies in a ward dying of pneumonia and with the other common symptoms of pseudomonas then LL would be free and there would be no question of murder. Sadly for LL the deaths on her ward were medically inexplicable - these were generally healthy babies who suddenly died. That’s why the consultants wanted to have an investigation / call the police…

Some people on this thread have a very unhealthy obsession with the outcome of this case.

I don't think it is worth engaging with them, it's just encouraging it.

Agree

would that be better than say obsessed with eg pop idol, or football etc, least thuis way hopefully the people that are intrested learn about the law too

I don't think anyone's learning much about the law from some of the bollocks being spouted

I don’t think anyone’s learning much about anything. We’ve reached the point of facts established in the trial and agreed by both sides now being denied. We’re also being invited to believe that one of the prosecution expert witnesses is about to ride to the rescue with new evidence that contradicts what he said in the trial. Bonkers.

I’d have thought you’d have learnt your lesson about insulting people yesterday. How quickly you’ve forgotten the guidelines again.

based on previous cases in law, there have been mistrials etc for various reasons so if the law was 100% perfect, no errors then id consider your perspective of "bonkers" but the facts are mistakes do get made, and miscarriages of justice do happen.

obviously in this case i dont have enough analysis of the case to offer any detailed analysis of my own.

I think I just find it frustrating that it's not more cut and dried. With Wayne Couzens he was caught on camera doing something and there was lots of evidence. It was clearcut.

If Lucy Letby did it it's horrific. If it's a mistake, it's horrific - the idea an innocent person could be incarcerated for life. Maybe something will turn up that will make things more cut and dried - whether it's another piece of evidence that proves it in a more clear cut way or disproves it in a more clearcut way.

Is it possible that no crimes were committed at all.

You might find it useful to read the accounts of the prosecution closing speech. It summarises the relevant evidence and in particular it draws together all the points of similarity which really take what happened way beyond the possibility of coincidence or mistake.

As your post has been deleted again, you would appear to be mistaken.

I’ve just watched some of the
Sky documentary about Beverly Allitt.
The number of similarities between this case and LLs is quite something!

I thought it was supposed to be different in that Allitt had some kind of childhood or family background issues. And in that case they did the full testing to rule out autoantibodies and determine it was exogeneous insulin - very thorough testing and there was no room for doubt at all.