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Ozempic when not obese or even overweight?

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Peverellshire · 12/09/2023 09:53

Are some using it to get a Hollywood A list body? Why do Sharon Osbourne etc, use? Some Mums excitedly discussing new ‘weight loss pen’, all normalish BMI?

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PinkRoses1245 · 12/09/2023 09:55

That's insane, how can anyone risk their health, especially with little known on long term side effects. I understand it for people for whom weight loss is very essential, such as those with diabetes. Otherwise it's madness.

InterFactual · 12/09/2023 10:09

They have eating disorders. There is no other reason an already slim person would try and reduce their weight below a healthy BMI range.

I've noticed that eating disorders are evolving and becoming far more socially acceptable under the guise of Instagram 'thinspo' due to social media influencers shilling such products. Laxatives are old school, the methods have changed but the mental health problem remains the same.

BHRK · 12/09/2023 10:13

Completely bonkers especially as medics say you need to stay on them for life. Nobody knows the side effects either

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Peverellshire · 12/09/2023 13:09

Sharon O is open about her use, as one example, & yet a healthy BMI I think?

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Greybeardy · 12/09/2023 13:55

BHRK · 12/09/2023 10:13

Completely bonkers especially as medics say you need to stay on them for life. Nobody knows the side effects either

One of the interesting (I think) side effects is that it makes anaesthesia higher risk by interfering with stomach emptying. We have to treat patients on it as having a full stomach which means a slightly higher risk anaesthetic technique and exposure to drugs that have a relatively high incidence of anaphylaxis (that may not otherwise be needed).

gwenneh · 12/09/2023 13:57

Nobody knows the side effects either

I think the side effects are fairly well known, as it's been used to treat diabetes for at least a decade on the NHS and longer elsewhere.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 12/09/2023 14:07

gwenneh · 12/09/2023 13:57

Nobody knows the side effects either

I think the side effects are fairly well known, as it's been used to treat diabetes for at least a decade on the NHS and longer elsewhere.

Semaglutide has been available on the NHS as a diabetic medicine since 2019.

The US FDA only approved it in 2017.

Why are you making things up?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaglutide#Legal_status

gwenneh · 12/09/2023 14:49

Liraglutide - Saxenda - has been approved in the UK since 2010 for diabetes.

So again, the side effects of medications which are only now being prescribed on-label for weight loss are fairly well known at this point.

DaisyDreaming · 12/09/2023 14:53

The fact it was linked to thyroid cancer in mice and can’t be used on patients with a high risk of thyroid cancer makes me not want to go near them! Someone in my family had to go on due to type 2 and I’m worried about the cancer link but their insulin requirements were going up and up and a trulicity has helped. It makes them feel like crap though and I don’t get putting up with side effects of you don’t have an ED just to lose a bit of weight. A friend of a friend used it for binge eating and it worked at first but she soon learnt how to push through it and continue the binging

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 12/09/2023 15:47

gwenneh · 12/09/2023 14:49

Liraglutide - Saxenda - has been approved in the UK since 2010 for diabetes.

So again, the side effects of medications which are only now being prescribed on-label for weight loss are fairly well known at this point.

Liraglutide is not Semaglutide.

They are different allbeit similar drugs. And as such have had individual development, clinical trials and approvals.

Eating disorders are often accompanied by a distortion of facts.

ALongHardWinter · 12/09/2023 15:48

Because a) they have an eating disorder and b) they can obviously afford it privately.

Peverellshire · 12/09/2023 15:55

ALongHardWinter · 12/09/2023 15:48

Because a) they have an eating disorder and b) they can obviously afford it privately.

The idea, presumably, to stop taking it when at target weight?

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LakeTiticaca · 12/09/2023 15:58

The cost to the NHS is eye Wateringly expensive.
Germany refuse to prescribe the drug for obesity as unlike other conditions the patient can address this issue themselves by adopting a healthy eating and exercise routine.
This should be the UK model as well although I will probably get my arse hand to me for saying it

Tatslookawful · 13/09/2023 13:21

Is it ok to use if overweight? It’s apparently dangerous to be overweight, so what’s riskier?

cantsleepwontcry · 13/09/2023 13:31

gwenneh · 12/09/2023 13:57

Nobody knows the side effects either

I think the side effects are fairly well known, as it's been used to treat diabetes for at least a decade on the NHS and longer elsewhere.

A decade? I don't think so!

JellyComb · 13/09/2023 15:52

@LakeTiticaca Its incredibly difficult to get on the NHS. You have to be super morbidly obese and even then you have to jump through hoops to get it and wait a long time.

I've been on Saxenda (privately) last year and am on it again now. I lost 3 stone last year and went from a size 18 to a 14 and was very happy.

I have put 2 stone back on because of eating the same as what made me fat in the first place. I love carbs and wine and although i KNOW not to consume these in vast quantities i still did. So im back on it again and hoping to be able to maintain this time.

WhisperingHi · 13/09/2023 16:33

@JellyComb what are you going to do differently this time to get a different outcome?

Have you read the new book ultra processed people? Reducing or eradicating processed food is a big journey but may help you rethink the food you general eat. It may be more sustainable once you learn how crap and chemically enhanced lots of food is these days.

ohboohoo · 14/09/2023 07:11

@cantsleepwontcry A decade? I don't think so!

Semiglutide belongs to a family of drugs some of which have been used for over a decade. The difference in them is minimal.

GnomeDePlume · 14/09/2023 07:19

I'm prescribed semaglutides for diabetes. Except that with all the private usage I cant always get it. My choice is either be on again/off again (which mucks up the dosage on other medications I'm on for other conditions) or be moved onto something else which has more unpleasant side effects.

Peverellshire · 14/09/2023 07:46

Is anyone on it who is overweight rather than obese?

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Jk987 · 14/09/2023 07:51

You can have a healthy BMI but still be flabby and have a bigger clothes size than you want. It's ok to want a better body even if BMI is within normal range.

Not saying Ozempic should be used though.

QueefofSheena · 14/09/2023 11:32

Sharon Osbourne was very overweight until she had a gastric band and other surgery years ago. She's had it removed so she probably uses these drugs to maintain her weight.

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