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What is your understanding of ‘County Lines’

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ScarletWitchM · 09/09/2023 20:54

I’ve read and heard different definitions of what ‘County Lines’ is.

what is it you think / believe/ understand County Lines to mean?

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LovePoppy · 09/09/2023 22:54

Spinningcats · 09/09/2023 22:09

I’m obviously super naive.I was thinking it’s the borders of a county, obviously.
I don’t think this phrase is In use where I am

You're not naive, instead uneducated @LovePoppy It’s not a slang ‘phrase’ it’s the literal name of the activity. It’s been headlines on every newspaper numerous times. The Government have run campaigns and have advice and a strategy for tackling County Lines.

I’m not in the UK. So while not up to date on what certain activities are called there, I’m absolutely not uneducated.

I never said it was slang, just that that phrasing isn’t in use where I live.

thanks for the kindness though!

Spinningcats · 09/09/2023 23:02

If you’re in another country and it’s not a word you use why would you declare not knowing it makes you naive? Makes no sense.

pastypirate · 09/09/2023 23:15

The bbc county lines film is really disturbing but very factual.
Junior Smart is a county lines survivor who runs training for professionals. He is v interesting and explains the language like a 'bando' for example.

Redlarge · 10/09/2023 04:19

Remagirl · 09/09/2023 22:01

City dealers picking off vulnerable more rural kids in towns and villages to deliver drugs for them. Noticeable by the sudden smart trainers, bikes, phones etc. Apparently dealers are now targeting more middle class kids as they're spoils are less noticeable.

None of this is true.

pompomdaisy · 10/09/2023 06:14

@LovePoppy it's in use everywhere as OFSTED inspect schools and specifically ask schools what they are doing to educate kids on it.

Yesiamtiredactually · 10/09/2023 07:43

County lines are literally the phone lines used between typically city drug dealers and rural locations. Generally younger and vulnerable adults and children are recruited and exploited to keep the ‘business’ going. It’s horrifying in part because the more you find out about them, you see how people find themselves in these situations and don’t realise until it’s too late and they don’t feel they have a safe way out. Or they honestly believe the people exploiting them are their friends and are on their side. And it’s not as easy to just arrest the bad guys as you’d want or hope either. It’s just terrifying and makes me fear for my own children.

Remagirl · 10/09/2023 08:18

Okay I’ll pass on to my detective sister 😂

ginderella85 · 10/09/2023 08:43

Used to work in a secure unit and the amount of children in there for welfare being recruited for county lines was unbelievable 😢 most of the kids where befriended, asked to do a one of drop and then couldn't get out of the deal! All for a few nice tracksuits and trainers. They normally go for the children with a chaotic life, i.e., in foster care, single parent with a demanding job, and never really at home as always at work! They are too deep in the game before they realise what's happened

ginderella85 · 10/09/2023 08:45

Redlarge · 09/09/2023 21:17

But thier 'role' could be local till they build up experience and get in too deep.

Absolutely this! They build trust before the train to 300 miles away journeys start

borninthe80esss · 10/09/2023 10:46

My understanding is that a dealer targets a vulnerable teen.
Example..
Dealer targets kid.
Offers them £100 to carry £20 bag of weed to an address 5 minutes away.
It's already planned for kid to be mugged whilst carrying the weed and money.
He now owes dealer £130 with no way of being able to repay the deals and money made/owed get bigger and bigger.
The kid becomes more scared of the gang he has been dragged into then the police or his parents and see's no way out.
This is how was explained to me by a policeman friend.
There was a poem/short story wrote explaining this called.. There's no such thing as a free chicken. (Referencing the fact that sometimes these debts start with a free KFC and end in a child owning a gang/dealer 1000s of pounds)
Just to add my friend told me it's not just boys, girls are dragged into it.
A lot of missing teens you see on Facebook ect are because of county Lines.
As far as I'm aware the term county lines is referencing the train lines across the country. The kids that get dragged into this use trains to carry drugs.

Somanycats · 10/09/2023 11:02

It's not always children either. Quite a few of the more independent adults with learning disabilities that I work with have also been recruited/threatened and made to do this. Not so much to distribute the stuff but to store it for distribution. I've just found a shed load under the bed of a learning disabled chap I see, for the second time. He lives in sheltered accommodation more or less independently. Last time the police removed it and told him off. He's obviously much less scared of the police than the dealer up line from him. Rightly so I guess.

StaunchMomma · 10/09/2023 23:38

Redlarge · 10/09/2023 04:19

None of this is true.

It's absolutely true in the market town and villages near me.

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