Why do people look down on council houses

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Just that really why do others look down on council/social houses. I don't understand. There's no special treatment. It's not unusual, it's been about for many years. It's now pretty hard to get social housing. There are thousands of family waiting lists, being made homeless. Through no fault of their own. It's pretty awful out there.

Thank god

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I’ll say it again; social housing is not a public asset. They are owned by private companies. I couldn’t give a toss who lives where but most people are obsessed with home ownership. It’s seen as the pinnacle of success.

Council houses are a public asset. If you mean housing associations, do you understand what they are and the legislation surrounding how such houses are funded to be built in the first place? If the rent being charged was that required to "make a profit" in an open marketplace without them being cross-subsidised by other houses sold at market value then the rent would not be lower than market rent. You can convolute the mechanism of subsidy however you like but the only way to provide accommodation at less than market rate is through some mechanism of other people subsidising it, which is exactly what happens whether the homes are HA or Council owned.

@Janieforever do you really need people to list locations? Its obvious places like London and similar areas cost much more than £106 PW in rent. Just because you stay within your own vincity and can't comprehend people pay much more than this doesn't mean it's a lie. I'm in the North and my rent is more than £106 PW. So if that's the Northern price it isn't hard to believe London rents will be more.

Subsidised by other houses sold at market value? Eh? You’re nuts love

Ironic for you to be applauding that @Catsarego given that you made an abusive post to me earlier calling me a "stuck up bastard". I haven't bothered to report the unwarranted spiteful personal attack. I think it should stand so that people can see what unpleasant comments have been made for no reason.

All HAs I know are non profit organisations. They are not a public asset.

We need to make renting the norm. A mortgage is unobtainable for many, including me. I don't have 30/40K spare for a deposit as I pay full rent, council tax, etc. So I will be in my rental until I die.

Yeh but you are. Crack on. I’m off to pick on some poor people

Subsidised by other houses sold at market value? Eh? You’re nuts love

Errrr.... section 106? That's the whole point of it? You don't understand the developers don't just absorb those costs and make a loss but pass them on to people who buy the other houses?

Yeh but you are. Crack on. I’m off to pick on some poor people

So reiterating your unprovoked personal attack rather than apologising for it. Nice.

They're jealous that someone is getting affordable rent and a secure tenancy

They think they're "better" as they have a mortgage

They're snobby arseholes

Have we had the subsidy that SH is losing money by not charging more yet l? (because nobody can come up with something that actually costs considering most of these houses don't have a mortgage and the rents have covered it a chunk of times) and it's funny to read or are we focusing on housing benefit. Which is an actual subsidy and a vast chunk goes on private rents straight to a landlord ls pension profits?

It's usually one or the other.

I just had a quick look on my council bidding site . I'm in London I see some places for 116. Couple were 147. Mine is 200 a week. But its a new build

I would much rather be underclass than be you

When you feel the need to pick on a spelling. And not stick with the subject. You have automatically lost

Thank you so much. Such a true post 💐💐💐

I certainly don’t look down on those living in social housing, there are a number of houses owned by a housing association on my estate and in the village.
I used to work with one housing association so have a little bit of insight. That HA decided a few years ago to build a small estate on the edge of a nearby town to largely house single parent families and the more difficult tenants. The assumption was that being brand new they’d appreciate their surroundings etc .It’s now a no go area where the police patrol in pairs; it’s hardly surprising that was the result 🫤
The Council sold off all their housing stock years ago, to HAs. Now they’re talking about having to build to meet demand.

That must have been so scary for the single parent families. :(

It's why social housing is meant to be for everyone, as mixed communities thrive better.

Sounds like you had a bad experience with the council estate you lived on @Fleur02 But labelling all social housing dwellers as underclass /lumpen proletariat is not only unpleasant, but also incorrect.

I'm in London and my HA rent is £800 p/m. I'm single and it's close to a third of my wages. So it certainly isn't dirt cheap! Cheaper than private yes, but still a chunk of money. And I know my rent is on the lower side as I've been a SH tenant for many years. I sometimes like to browse exchange sites (a bit like homeowners browsing right move!) and it's very common now to see SH rents of £250+ per week in London.

@eeriesun absolutely many posters have pointed out to @Fleur02 that isn't our reality perhaps it's the type of people @Fleur02 associates herself with 😆

Yes, where I live it tends to be a mix of professionals and tradespeople in social housing, postmen/women, taxi drivers, artists, actors, etc. as well as teachers (higher ed, university and school) and nurses of course.

@Seagullchippy because that's the only way that council housing will be available for all in need.

If you're no longer in need, then time to move on. It's crazy that if you've had one once, you can keep it and swap it for life. Such an inefficient way of managing limited stock.

Unless council housing is no longer for those in need, and now it's just for everyone and anyone? If so, where do I sign up? Oh hang on, that will be two decades before it gets to me...

@EmpressSoleil it's relative. £800 in London is very cheap, regardless of your circumstances. If people can't get a council house, what do they do? Typically they'd have to move out of London. I'm not suggesting that's what everyone should do as London needs low salaries workers too and those who aren't rich. But whilst £800 would be a lot for most single people, it's still a very reasonable rent for London. There has to be some geographical considerations when it comes to cost.

@WhisperingHi people have been moving out of London and that just shifts the problem along to other cities. A lot of students end up staying where I live because they can't afford to live in London or the quality of life they would have is vastly different. That just means places within the North also raise the prices as then it's become a bit of a hotspot