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How best to deal with a passive aggressive anonymous note.

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WouldYouLikeYourMuffinButtered · 04/09/2023 18:15

My daughter is a new driver and the only one in our family who can drive. She needs her car to get to work as she works very unsociable hours. We rent our house and do not have access to the garage as it is rented out separately but all of our neighbours have a garage to use in the compound, however everyone of them prefers on street parking for convenience and it's a bit of a free for all.
Today an anonymous typed note was left on my daughter's windscreen telling her to 'leave space for other residents'. This partly because she does leave a bit extra space in front of her, because she doesn't have the confidence or skills yet to get out of tight spaces and is worried about clipping another car. None of this scenario is anything which couldn't be sorted by having a civil conversation, but I am really pissed off about it all.. she has nowhere else to park but neither do we need a neighbour feud. I'm interested in other driver's viewpoint.

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RexWillKillYou · 04/09/2023 20:25

WunWun · 04/09/2023 18:27

How could you possibly respond?

Just make sure she parks properly in future. Being a new driver doesn't give you the right to take up extra space that inconveniences other people

Yeah, but whining about the on street parking when you have a garage you won’t use leaves you open to accusations of just being a bit of a dick.

itsgettingweird · 04/09/2023 20:29

WouldYouLikeYourMuffinButtered · 04/09/2023 20:00

Sadly taking over the garage isn't an option. Our landlord rents it out separately to someone else.

Do they yawning as storage? Access it daily?

If not would you be able to park in front of the garage?

It may well be worth considering a discussion with landlord about that if there's space to park there.

TheWayoftheLeaf · 04/09/2023 20:36

Tell her to carry on as normal. As long as it's not half a cars worth then she can leave a little bit of space. Otherwise she'll just get trapped in.

It's really not their business and if they want to discuss it then they should come and talk to you not leave notes.

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Gcsunnyside23 · 04/09/2023 21:04

Tell her to carry on as she has untill shes more comfortable. Unless she's leaving mad amount of room it's not unreasonable. They can park in their car park of that bothered.

Longtimeloiterer · 04/09/2023 21:09

BiscuitsandPuffin · 04/09/2023 19:22

I don't see what the difference between renting and owning has to do with anything.
She literally explains what it has to do with anything in the sentence after that one. She has explained that the garage is let out to someone else. Going out on a limb, and maybe doing some thinking, what relevance do you think that might possibly have to a parking thread @Longtimeloiterer ?

@BiscuitsandPuffin 🙄 I got that. Being a renter doesn't give them less right to park on the road than owner neighbours (who don't use theirs...)

booksandbeans · 04/09/2023 21:12

Take the note & put it in another car, nasty thing to leave anonymous notes. Does she have a P sign on the car to indicate she is a new driver? Otherwise bit more practice & she’ll be fine.

RicherThanYews · 04/09/2023 21:14

YANBU but honestly I thought this was about the note I left on an Audi TT that was blocking a single lane access on my street to all the garages. I was going to not apologise for using the word knobhead. New drivers need time to build confidence, it's not a big deal.

Newtrix · 04/09/2023 21:23

MNetcurtains · 04/09/2023 18:58

Tell your daughter about TT. Tyre and Tarmac. When she parks, if she can see the tyres of the car in front touching the tarmac then she has enough room to move out of the space.

First time in 20 years of driving I've heard this.... could have saved me so many times when I was inexperienced!

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 22:13

Newtrix · 04/09/2023 21:23

First time in 20 years of driving I've heard this.... could have saved me so many times when I was inexperienced!

IMO That is too much space for on street parking when it is a high demand area.
DD is likely to end up enraging the passive roadrager to hate letters or even public screaming for that

It was taught to learners to keep a safe distance between you and the car in front if slow rolling in city traffic or comming to a stopping at a traffic light (or foot break holding in first "off the bite" without a handbreak). So if you got rear-ended you have time and space to emergency break without being pushed into the car in front.

OrangeSprout · 04/09/2023 22:28

Buy her an estate car, or something bigger and have her extra parking lessons. Watch the notes pile in.

Tiredalwaystired · 05/09/2023 07:58

Because the landlord rents the garage out to someone else, not them. The poster said that up thread.

Tiredalwaystired · 05/09/2023 07:59

Sorry that should have quoted @RexWillKillYou

2chocolateoranges · 05/09/2023 08:06

I’d personally tell her to ignore the note. Chances are if she’s just passed her test then she will have a small car , so isn’t taking up any more space than a normal sized car.

some people forget they were learner drivers once in their lives.

her confidence will grow the more she drives and the more she parks.

CapEBarra · 05/09/2023 08:14

Well, if she’s causing an issue for other drivers then she needs to spend some time learning to park properly. She doesn’t need an instructor or extra lessons. She can watch a couple of YouTube videos and practice in a quiet spot in a Tesco car park. I’m not sure that the anonymous note leaver is in the wrong and I’m not sure it’s a big deal. It’s not an abusive note, just a simple request, and helpful for your daughter - now she knows she’s causing a problem she can fix it.

Doingmybest12 · 05/09/2023 08:15

That's all a bit stressful for a new driver to worry about. Are you around mostly and can nip out and just watch her if she thinks she's too near while trying to pull out for a bit, also it might make a point to the neighbours that she's trying not to prang their car. Or if parking really is at a premium is there somewhere a little further away she can park. I know she shouldn't have to etc but for peace of mind until she's got a bit more confident. Otherwise ignore the note and carry on.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/09/2023 08:16

endofthelinefinally · 04/09/2023 18:31

She needs to book a lesson with a professional instructor and spend the whole lesson learning to park. It will be money well spent.

This is good advice ( speaking as someone who had reversing issues). Think of it as an investment for the future, when she will be able to nip in and out of tiny but oh so convenient spaces.

CassiniG · 05/09/2023 08:22

Maybe the note writer saw it was a young lady and possibly a new driver and didn't want to embarrass her in person by speaking with her so left a polite note about her inconsiderate parking.

ZadocPDederick · 05/09/2023 08:33

itsmyp4rty · 04/09/2023 18:38

I would tell her just to ignore it, if anyone has the actual balls to say anything to her then she can explain that she's a new driver and doesn't have the confidence to park closer and unlike all the other houses she doesn't have a garage that she could park in. They probably won't though seeing as they didn't even put a name or house number on the note.

There's no law to say how much space you have to leave between cars so if the neighbours don't like it they can just park in their frigging garages, lazy bastards.

I really don't think she is going to get any sympathy telling people she doesn't have the confidence to park properly. She won't gain that confidence without practice.

SausageAndEggSandwich · 05/09/2023 08:36

Ignore the note. Your DD is a new driver, not yet confident she can deal with tight spaces so she's doing the right thing. The note writer is unpleasant and clearly has no life if they have the time to be bothered about parking.

I lived on a road with only street parking for years - yes some people left more space than others but so what. People saying she needs more lessons - she doesn't, she just needs practice and she will get that from daily parking on her road! Unless she doesn't know how to reverse park, no need for lessons.

caringcarer · 05/09/2023 08:45

endofthelinefinally · 04/09/2023 18:31

She needs to book a lesson with a professional instructor and spend the whole lesson learning to park. It will be money well spent.

This. She should have made sure she could park whilst having lessons. It's unfair to take up 1 1/2 spaces when parking.

thecatsthecats · 05/09/2023 09:58

Tyres and tarmac is aimed at the amount of space in traffic, not the amount parked on a road.

I agree with others that she needs to creep up her tolerance level until she's comfortable at a reasonable distance.

A good way to practice is if she can nab spots that are unlimited at one end (next to drives etc), and use the minimum amount of pulling out space.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 05/09/2023 11:00

TT is not very helpful IMO - it was good in my Fiesta not so much in my Qashquai!

@WouldYouLikeYourMuffinButtered it's hard to judge sometimes if you have enough space. My go to is to back up as much as I can - so I'm keeping a smaller space between the car behind me and a bigger one in front. Then at least (barring of course the car in front moving!) you're using the available space as well as you possibly can. If she has a car with a rear camera, those are really helpful in judging the space. If she doesn't, and is having trouble with parallel parking, I'll post a link to a gif in a minute that really helped me nail parallel parking. I had to do in an extremely tight road in a big car - trust me, it's a skill everyone should learn!

But - other than that - tell your daughter not to sweat it. You have one car for your household, I can almost guarantee the person who left the note is someone who likes to park in front of their own house and is a bit of a warrior about it, probably has three cars to their home as well.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2023 11:07

Ignore, ignore, ignore, both the note and the snippy comments you’re getting here. I’ve been driving for over 30 years and always leave enough space in front of me to get out comfortably. Some people need to get lives.

WandaWonder · 05/09/2023 11:14

Is she is old and responsible enough to drive she is old and responsible enough to park correctly, all she needs to do is change it and move on

There is not need for anyone to think any more just fix it

LlynTegid · 05/09/2023 11:16

Anonymous notes should be ignored. Someone who speaks to you and raises the concerns, yes act upon.

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