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Any schools introducing a Chat GPT policy this year?

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ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 15:46

A question for teachers and parents… are any of your schools introducing a policy on the use of ChatGPT and other AI but pupils this year?

i work with management / teachers in a big school (not in the uk but teaching some of the English curriculum) and we don’t have anything yet. Some teachers are individually exploring it as a tool and trying to cover up with their

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ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 15:48

oops!

…their own rules, while others refuse to even try it out or acknowledge its existence. obviously the students are very aware of it!

is anything being formalised in your school?

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ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 15:50

Some teachers think we should be encouraging them to learn how to use it as a tool because this is the world they are going to be graduating into. Others just see it as cheating, and are pushing to go back to all assessments being done in class, pen and paper.

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LaChatte · 03/09/2023 16:09

It's massive, and schools are way behind on it. It's not unlike the arrival of Internet, that was a huge upheaval.

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ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 16:28

@LaChatte

i was listening to a marketing AI podcast, the hosts had conducted a mini poll of friends and family / teachers and parents to ask if schools were doing anything. Most of them were doing nothing, some were giving pretty much unworkable rules aiming to prevent students using it. None of them had any positive policies and in most cases teachers seem to be being left to puzzle it out for themselves.

The IB schools have already said that they need to be looking beyond ‘the essay’ as the prime means of assessment / examining. but we’ve had nothing official.

the great majority of our teachers are burying their heads / trying to pretend it isn’t there. Others are trying to somehow outwit the AI and the teenage digital natives that they are teaching 🤷‍♀️, because they see it as straightforward cheating. Not a hope.

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DrasticAction · 03/09/2023 16:31

@LaChatte.
It's massive indeed.

You can't use any plagerism check on it, you can't really tell unless you look at specific areas.

Many student are using it already and submitting work with it and getting good at grades.
They can't believe their luck.

sleepyscientist · 03/09/2023 16:34

Turn it in can apparently detect it

PastTheGin · 03/09/2023 16:40

MFL have been dealing with google translate for years. Both GT and AI are usually fairly easy to spot.
Most writing tasks are now being carried out in class, so under supervision.
We have also introduced an honesty statement and keep pushing the message that cheating now will do them no favours in an exam.

Wallywobbles · 03/09/2023 16:40

Turnitin is pretty useless IME.

ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 16:40

schools are way behind on it

This was the point that the marketing guys were making. In their commercial world, developers, entrepreneurs and even regulators are all over it. In education… tumbleweed.

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JodyMitchell · 03/09/2023 16:41

I lecture at a U.K. university. It has been a nightmare marking essays this year. We have been using turnitin to detect plagiarism for years, and it works really well but ChatGPT is a whole other threat. It’s just not detectable and it’s not just used to avoid researching sources and arguments it’s used to actually write the whole essay. It’s very obvious but almost impossible to prove.

Our way around it is to in future assess students on presentations instead of essays. But then you’ll get MA students going on to do phds who can’t do long pieces of academic writing.

It enrages and upsets me that academia is either ignoring it or ‘embracing’ it. It’s a real threat to university life.

ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 16:52

I heard as well that UCAS will be moving to videoed personal statements next year, to avoid applicants using AI to write them.

as if, in the next few years from now , students won’t be able to create their own perfectly enhanced video statement using AI 🙄

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DrasticAction · 03/09/2023 16:56

It does feel like it's just sprung up really suddenly.

It undermines teaching and learning and it's not fair on the students who do work hard and learn.

PastTheGin · 03/09/2023 16:59

ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 16:52

I heard as well that UCAS will be moving to videoed personal statements next year, to avoid applicants using AI to write them.

as if, in the next few years from now , students won’t be able to create their own perfectly enhanced video statement using AI 🙄

Surely the statement will still be prepared before the recording, so how is that going to help?

MidnightOnceMore · 03/09/2023 17:01

ForthegracegoI · 03/09/2023 16:52

I heard as well that UCAS will be moving to videoed personal statements next year, to avoid applicants using AI to write them.

as if, in the next few years from now , students won’t be able to create their own perfectly enhanced video statement using AI 🙄

This has big implications for admissions as those who are less extrovert will find doing a presentation much harder.

LaChatte · 03/09/2023 19:45

I keep trying to build a sequence about AI to teach to my pupils (EFL in France, year 8) but every single time the end result is terrifying and I dont want to completely traumatise them 😬

Bobbybobbins · 03/09/2023 19:53

I am a teacher. We are 'behind' on this compared to the commercial sector- but big businesses may have the time, money and expertise to become experts in this and train their staff accordingly. We don't even have enough money for enough exercise hooks in our budget this year!

Bobbybobbins · 03/09/2023 19:53

*books not hooks!

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