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How do we become...morning people?

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YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 19:43

My son (14) and I are not natural morning people, given the option we would both snooze merrily until 11am. Getting up for work/school is not fun for either of us (one grumpy night owl trying to wake another grumpy night owl* *rarely ends well).

We have to get up early most weekends as of now for rugby, which requires us being in the arse end of nowhere at stupid O' clock in the freezing cold. Can anyone share how they have made this even vaguely agreeable please?

Just to head off the worst:

  1. I don't resent my son doing sport at all. Nor the early starts, I just would like advice on how to make it easier for us.
  1. If you're about to talk about swimming, I know it's even more mad than rugby! Share your secrets...
  1. Screen time is timetabled (he can have an absolute marathon on a Friday from 7 until 10 30pm when he doesn't need to be up early.)
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mathanxiety · 26/08/2023 21:13

Never lie in. Get up early 7 days a week.

Drink water as soon as you get up.

Open your back door and go outside for a few minutes when you get downstairs Breathe deeply.

Come back in. Brush your teeth.

Take a fairly cool shower (or switch from warm to fairly cool for the final rinse). Give yourself time for a nice long shower.

Never talk to anyone until you've had a nice big mug of coffee or tea.

Boomboom22 · 26/08/2023 21:14

I hate the morning. If it was up to me I'd go yo bed at 2 and get up at 10. Sadly can't do that so go to bed at 11 or 12 and up at 6.45. Or 8.30 to 9ish on weekends but I've stayed up. I would refuse anything that meant leaving before 7.30am and do dislike that.

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:14

LimeCheesecake · 26/08/2023 20:57

And that’s it - if morning people are people who don’t enjoy a lie in or lazy “half sleep, half awake doze” then you can’t make yourself like that. All you can do is factor in that you are a long wake up person, not a fast wake up person.

on my work days, my alarm goes off at 6:05am. I need to leave the house at either 7:30am or 8am depending if I’m driving or walking. It takes me just over 45minutes to be ready for work and packed lunches done etc. I need the extra time to wake up. In winter that’s alarm snooze time, in summer, coffee in the garden time. I can’t go “switch off alarm, straight to shower, ready to face the day.”

I need time to come to terms with no longer being asleep. (And frankly I’ve learned to distrust those who don’t need transitional time, annoying bouncy fuckers, every one of them)

Your post has spoken to me in a way I feel slightly observed by! Yes, we can in fact get up at any time, it's just 5am starts represent an awake/getting up time that I don't like!

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Hecate01 · 26/08/2023 21:14

I'm not a morning person and my lumie alarm clock doesn't change that or make it remotely better. The only thing I've found that works is forcing myself to get up when the alarm goes off and not hitting snooze, I've moved the clock so I can't reach it without getting out of bed. It probably doesn't help that I have to start work at 5am so my alarm is going off at 03:45 either 😩

LimeCheesecake · 26/08/2023 21:15

@Wallywobbles - that’s a real morning person mentality! You can go from being asleep to getting up and starting getting reading in seconds! That’s not something the non-morning types can easily do. It takes time to wake up. I could force myself out of bed immediately when my alarm goes off, but then I’ll be stood in the shower not washing my hair because I need to wake up a bit first, or sat on the loo having “finished” but not ready to stand up again yet. Or had shower and sat on my bed in my towel staring at open wardrobe knowing exactly what I planned to wear today but not being quite ready to stand up and take that dress and put it on yet…

budgeting for “wake up time” is the kindest thing a night person can do for themselves.

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:15

Blottingpaperscript · 26/08/2023 20:39

I'm a night owl, and despite years of being woken up early by small kids, dogs and getting up at the crack of stupid for work (some jobs have been a 6am start) I'm afraid to say it's all a fruitless endeavour. The moment I don't have to be up early, I'm back to night owl hours. It's just my natural clock. So I get up as late as possible without causing myself issues, and go to bed as late as I can get away with and still function normally.

I am giving you a weak high five. I have ti be in bed in about 18 minutes to function tomorrow.

I feel ya though.

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Hawkins009 · 26/08/2023 21:16

I'm similar in needing to be up early but in general my preference is 8am waking.
I need to eg get to bed around 22:30 -00:00
Sometimes I do usually other times it's a mix and I feel zz during the day.

mathanxiety · 26/08/2023 21:16

When it comes to waking DS - open hisndoor, tell him it's time to get up, and leave him to it.

There are natural consequences to not leaving in time for your practice or your match.

Don't mollycoddle him. It's a rod for your own back.

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:18

Usernamenotavailabletryanother · 26/08/2023 20:55

I am just like you, would naturally sleep 2am-11am but can’t because life’s not fair.

I have no magical secrets, prep or hacks- I just take a 5 min cold shower every morning. It jolts me awake and I can actually function. It’s changed my life.

The sheer number of cold shower recommendations on this thread is giving me hives. I don't even like warm showers at 5am! 😭

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Notooserious · 26/08/2023 21:18

The only thing that makes my mornings bearable is DH and DC having their 20 minute morning poos together (one on toilet, one on potty, each with a screen) that allows me to make coffee and go back to bed for 15 mins. Otherwise murder would be done.

inonan · 26/08/2023 21:19

I set the alarm even earlier than I need to acclimatise. I like to have an unhurried breakfast and wake properly.

But you need to get to bed very early (lots of good tips here to help with that) have everything ready.

Teaandsympathy · 26/08/2023 21:20

I know this is counter intuitive but push your coffee back slowly so eventually you're having it 90 mins after you wake up. Have water/warm water/ decaf when you first wake up. You will wake up feeling fresher after a few days. I heard this on some podcast and gave it a go and it really helped me in the mornings.

inonan · 26/08/2023 21:21

I go this to help with early morning weekend exercise classes.

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:26

Moredarkchocolateplease · 26/08/2023 21:06

I'm an early riser. Here's how my mornings go in case there's anything useful.

We don't sleep with curtains closed, always open in the summer. So as soon as the sky starts to change I just wake up and get up.

I like to walk the dogs by 5 at the weekend even in the winter, I wear a headtorch.

On a school day, I don't walk the dogs as they have a dog walker, instead I either do a power walk or a yoga workout or some weights in the garage.

I then shower and have coffee (decaf)

I make sure I have a lovely breakfast to look forward to - usually overnight oats which I make differently every day.

Even If I'm really tired I tell myself I can have a snooze after lunch/in the car when I reach my destination.

When I get up I'm straight into leggings and sports bra and too and jumper. If its by the bed it's easy.

I never lie in. Ever. The latest I slept this year is 7.30 when I was on holiday. And I was cross that i'd missed the sunrise!

I go to bed around 9pm. Last night I was exhausted from work and was asleep by 8pm, I then got up at 5this morning no problem.

I think PPs are right, it's an instinct genetic thing. I've been the same since I was a child. And I had a job at a newsagents before school when I was a teenager. I've just never struggled.

But ask me to stay up late for something and you will make me cry.

This is such a useful timeline! I think ot perfectly illustrates for me the visceral differences between natural early risers and....Well...me!

The only time I was ever up before 5 which included a sleep was when we had roosters. Prior to that, 5am would have been a reasonable bedtime.

I've trained in the gym for years. Never before 10am.

I've never ingested anything more than coffee before 12pm (my kids have overnight oats every morning)

I've never had the lunch snooze option because I work full time "normal" hours 9-5

If I went to bed at 9pm my brain would make an absolute point of playing the Muppet Show theme tune for 4 hours!

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D1nopawus · 26/08/2023 21:29

Lumie clock. Wake up gently. Add a radio alarm to go off 15 mins after the Lumie starts.
Magnesium tablets an hour before bed.
Include exercise and time outdoors in your daily routine.
Never let early birds tell you they are the superior species.

AMessageToYouRuby · 26/08/2023 21:29

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 20:56

This is a brilliant reply thankyou.

We don't have a garden but we do have a "Juliette balcony' so will attempt drinking coffee leaning over that.

Balcony will work great! It's to do with the light and its much better if it doesn't come through a window.

Other posters are right, in that cold showers do work (but I can't face it) and that its very easy to undo the good work, I will revert back to my 3-11 routine at any opportunity and then have to readjust, which is actually awful.

Don't expect to love it by the way. I still am a night owl, I'm not joyous, just functional, regularly stand drinking my coffee as sun rises wishing all the chirping birds would fuck off!

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:31

BananaSpanner · 26/08/2023 21:07

I’m the opposite, I’m much better in the mornings, can get going pretty much straight away, I’m most productive in the morning. But, I love an afternoon nap or an early night. Was never one for staying out much past 1am even in my 20s. Night shifts used to absolutely ruin me.

I think we’re all just programmed certain ways and have to get on with it as best we can.

Im also a rugby mum but most of our matches don’t start until 10.30 ish which is fine anyway.

I guess advice would be to get kit and bag sorted the night before.
Plenty of caffeine
Easy quick breakfast
Then straight out of the door.

That's it I think, there's definitely two groups!

I used to work until 4am, kids at school for 8.30, nap, be a parent until 8pm and then off again.

I envy your 10.30 starts, we have to go all over the shop for 9am preps. I love a home game, its 15 mins, lob him out the car with a gumshield and jobs a good un!

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Dabadumm · 26/08/2023 21:32

Im an absolute night owl, but for work reasons have had to be up early over this last year when normally I work at night.
I go to bed early and wake up early every day, even on days off, your body eventually gets used to the early sleep. I use the alarmy app and have it so it only shuts off if I scan a Barcode from something in the bathroom, so I have to get up and moving, then straight into the shower and then caffeine!

Nonamenoplacetogo · 26/08/2023 21:34

Once your hit perimenopause you'll be awake at 6am everyday... Smile

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:34

Wallywobbles · 26/08/2023 21:09

The getting out of bed without procrastinating is relatively easy. Don't think. Alarm sounds, covers off, feet on the floor, stand up. Walk straight to next part of routine. Shower/clothes/teeth.

Don't think at all, it all has to be habit. And everything ready the night before so you don't have to think what to wear etc.

You can put on radio/audiobook etc but you can't read your phone until you've got yourself up and dressed.

This is practical, no-nonsense and I am annoyed 😄

I do employ the "one foot in front of the other" technique but yours is more specific. I'm trying this on Sunday.

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JetBlackSteed · 26/08/2023 21:35

So, can't help with getting up thing, as I struggle with that too!
But I will second that you need a really good coat and wellies / boots with fluffy socks for standing on the sidelines when they play in freezing (literally) conditions, or worse if it's raining and mud city. Hope you aren't precious with the car interior!

milknbean · 26/08/2023 21:37

I set my alarm an hour before I have to get up and neck my Ritalin.

It's usually kicked in by the time my next alarm goes off and I happily get up.

I appreciate this only works for people with ADHD or access to street amphetamines but you asked for my secret and this is it.

Supercat100 · 26/08/2023 21:37

Read The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod. A game changer.

YesitsBess · 26/08/2023 21:38

mathanxiety · 26/08/2023 21:13

Never lie in. Get up early 7 days a week.

Drink water as soon as you get up.

Open your back door and go outside for a few minutes when you get downstairs Breathe deeply.

Come back in. Brush your teeth.

Take a fairly cool shower (or switch from warm to fairly cool for the final rinse). Give yourself time for a nice long shower.

Never talk to anyone until you've had a nice big mug of coffee or tea.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO FUCK OFF WITH THE COLD SHOWERS 😂

I hear you and I understand that this is the general consensus, I just fucking hate every one of you freezing cold early-rising bastards. I hope you understand its just a reaction to the group advice rather than me hating you all as individuals. I hate you all.

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milknbean · 26/08/2023 21:39

Also another favourite of mine is to set my alarm an hour and fifteen minutes before I have to get up. Shower, then go back to bed with a towel on my hair until the real alarm goes off.

Then I'm not met with the dread of having to face the shower and dry my hair when I wake up.

I am really odd, though.