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NHS payslip increment date

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LavaMonkey · 23/08/2023 21:36

Does the increment date on my payslip show the date that my pay will increase?

Or just the year that I have got under my belt
for the potential increase?

Thanks

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Jojobees · 23/08/2023 21:38

your increment date is for moving up your band, and accruing your extra leave.

LavaMonkey · 23/08/2023 21:42

Thank you.

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thatwassociopathic · 23/08/2023 21:48

In Scotland, some of the bands have several increments on the same pay, not sure if you're elsewhere, but it means you go up to the next point on the scale, which may or may not be accompanied by a pay rise that year. Your leave will go by your first day of service, so again in Scotland, you get more leave at 5 and 10 yrs of service.

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thatwassociopathic · 23/08/2023 21:49

You will also get the annual uplift (assuming they don't freeze it again) in April in line with the national pay award within agenda for change. This is separate to your incremental rises.

LavaMonkey · 23/08/2023 22:02

Im in the U.K. and im worried the increment date is just showing me when I'm going up a year rather than a pay scale

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LavaMonkey · 23/08/2023 22:03

I mean im in England. 🙄

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MajesticWhine · 23/08/2023 22:17

On my pay slip the increment date is my "anniversary" of moving to this band - it is not the date my pay will move up a spine point.
So for example the date shown for me is October 2023 (it will be 4 years on this band) but I am not actually due to move up a spine point until October 2024 (5 years)

MajesticWhine · 23/08/2023 22:18

So yes it is a year not necessarily a pay scale

Yellowcakestand · 23/08/2023 22:21

As others have said, increment date on agenda for change is the next spine point, not necessarily a pay increase. It depends what band you are and how many years you have been in it. Some paybands now have 2-3 years at the same pay before an increase. They now only have a bottom, middle & top wage instead of going up every year for 5/6 years.

LavaMonkey · 23/08/2023 22:28

Ok that's what I thought.

I was getting a bit excited thinking they had got it wrong and I was due a pay in crease!

Never mind 😭

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LavaMonkey · 24/08/2023 09:33

It was requested that I do an appraisal and get my ESR training up 100% and my manager had to fill in a performance thing to say I was doing well at work.

Is that normal just to go up an increment (and not spine point)?

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AlexandraJJ · 24/08/2023 09:46

Increments as we knew then don’t exist anymore (although the payslip has not been changed to reflect this. The inc date on there is the next pay progression date. From memory when you are the top of band the date will not change it remains as the date you got to the the top). It’s pay progression now and it isn’t automatic. There has to be a positive transaction in ESR in order to move people along. There is national guidance as to what the criteria should be in order for AfC staff to progress through their band. Some organisations have also added their own in addition to this which is why you’ve been asked to do the tasks you have. A lot of the criteria was paused throughout the covid period. As previous posters have said the date is the anniversary of being in the band and progression doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in pay depending which band and where you are within it. There’s loads of resources explaining the pay journey on NHS Employers website and various unions have explanations on NHS pay.

LavaMonkey · 24/08/2023 14:44

AlexandraJJ · 24/08/2023 09:46

Increments as we knew then don’t exist anymore (although the payslip has not been changed to reflect this. The inc date on there is the next pay progression date. From memory when you are the top of band the date will not change it remains as the date you got to the the top). It’s pay progression now and it isn’t automatic. There has to be a positive transaction in ESR in order to move people along. There is national guidance as to what the criteria should be in order for AfC staff to progress through their band. Some organisations have also added their own in addition to this which is why you’ve been asked to do the tasks you have. A lot of the criteria was paused throughout the covid period. As previous posters have said the date is the anniversary of being in the band and progression doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in pay depending which band and where you are within it. There’s loads of resources explaining the pay journey on NHS Employers website and various unions have explanations on NHS pay.

So the date on my payslip IS when my pay increases?

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AlexandraJJ · 24/08/2023 14:57

The date is the next pay progression date, there are no annual pay increases relating to pay progression anymore. You will just move up provided you have met the criteria set by your employer. There are resources showing the pay ladder/pay step journey. Might be easier as it’s quite visual.

LavaMonkey · 24/08/2023 15:23

AlexandraJJ · 24/08/2023 14:57

The date is the next pay progression date, there are no annual pay increases relating to pay progression anymore. You will just move up provided you have met the criteria set by your employer. There are resources showing the pay ladder/pay step journey. Might be easier as it’s quite visual.

I've seen all the resources, I understand the pay increase and when it happens.

I just don't understand why my pay, emails and interviews with my manager are implying a pay increase when I've only been there 12 months.
Its all pointing towards a pay increase.

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Yellowcakestand · 26/08/2023 12:39

You have to go through an annual appraisal which includes all of your training being up to date anyway. Even if you have been top of your bad for years and not due any further increments x

oOiluvfriendsOo · 26/08/2023 12:46

In Scotland If you've only been there 12 months you are not due a pay increase. The increase comes at the end of year 2 when you move to top of the band. Check the AFC table.

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