Disagreement with DH over Jordan Peterson

[NorfolkSky]

Just had a disagreement with DH triggered by this article: Jordan Peterson: Critics complain over 'misleading' book cover quotes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66520089

Specifically we argued about the video clip of him speaking here about the patriarchy. Essentially Peterson was saying that it is wrong for society to strive for equality of outcome, and instead we should only want to achieve equality of opportunity. (He cites Norway as an example of a country where women have greater opportunities and says they still choose to work in teaching rather than the corporate world - I'm summarising).

DH thinks he is very measured and is correct in this. I think it's bollocks and in order to dismantle the patriarchy you need to first have at lease 50% of the gatekeepers / decision makers being women. Surely until this happens the patriarchy will remain...?

Who IBU?

(Incidentally the original article is all about the bullshit misleading quotes on JP's book cover...)

Honestly, I think it's a sad day where we can't listen and think about alternative views.

This is discourse, debate, critical thinking...

Someone isn't the anti-Christ because they hold different views.

You can agree with some things one person (JP) says and disagree with others.

Totally fine to argue and debate and discuss but completely writing off everything someone says because you disagree with parts of it is surely bonkers?

(And also part of what's going wrong in society at the moment IMO)

Kudos to you, I’m sure you raised some well adjusted kids. The problem here is that I’ve never seen these words posted by a man.

I do not agree with JP across the board. Not at all.

But he has made me think (repeatedly) and I do think that OPs DHs agreement with the statement she quoted isn`t inherently worrying or problemtic.

Do I believe that "care work" (aka stereotypical women`s careers) should be valued more? and that salaries should reflect this? Of course.
Playgroup staff get horribly low salaries in so many countries (to use one example).

Valuing these jobs appropriately is the answer imo. Not devaluing them even further by claiming that women and girls have to do STEM instead. Whilst also considering how upbringing, societal messaging etc. influence people. NOBODY lives in a vacuum, we`re all innfluenced by our environemnt.

I do however dislike how some people disparage traits, preferences and choices that are traditionally considered to be more "feminine".
It was very popular in the 90is / when I was growing up and I still observe it way too often.