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Do people respect you/your boundaries?

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learninghowtosetboundaries · 12/08/2023 18:12

After years of being a peoplepleasing doormat I decided I needed to work on setting boundaries and allowing myself to say no. But it hasn't been going well and I think it's because nobody respects me or my boundaries or anything I say.

Over the last couple of years of new me trying to state my boundaries I've found that people just ignore me and do what they want anyway and if I try to be firm and say actually no this is not ok with me they just choose to walk out of my life.

I've tried telling myself it's their loss and I'm better off without them but it still hurts.

I'll use smoking as an example as a smoking one happened again today.

I don't smoke. I don't like the smell. I don't want people to smoke in my house or roll cigarettes and leave tobacco everywhere.

My sister came to stay for a few days. I told her you can't smoke in the house you'll have to go outside in the garden if you want to smoke. There was lots of whining, it's cold... it's raining... you can't expect me to go outside in my pyjamas etc. But I was firm and stuck to it. My house my rules if you don't like it you can choose to stay elsewhere. Over the week she wore me down with the complaining. She started off in the garden but then moved to standing in the open doorway. When I complained that the smoke and smell is coming straight in to the kitchen, rather than move outside and shut the door she just said that I was being stupid the door is open the smoke is outside and what was the point in coming to visit if I was just going to make her stand in the garden all week.

That was a couple of years ago, when she next mentioned visiting my city I made excuses to not be able to have her to stay at my place so she hasn't spoken to me since.

Today a family member said he was popping over to do something on the computer. I left him to it and when I went back to bring him a coffee he was rolling a cigarette. I said do you mind not doing that in here you're dropping tobacco everywhere and I just hoovered. He ignored me and carried on. I heard the front door open so went to say goodbye, he said he's not finished yet he's just going out for a smoke. I said I would prefer you not do that while at my house you bring the smoke smell back in with you and I don't like it, please wait till you're finished with the computer and smoke your cigarette when you leave. He again ignored me, went outside to smoke, came back in to finish what he was doing.

I know I had the option of just not letting him come back in but these are just two small examples there's been loads, not just smoking related, lots of different things and I don't have many people left because they all seem to decide that I am not worth the effort and walk away rather than be inconvenienced by my boundaries.

To be honest I have held the door open and let them go because I'm so fed up of being ignored and being disrespected. But I am also sad and wondering if it's me that is the problem. Am I being unreasonable in my requests, am I doing the whole boundaries thing wrong? If you are good at stating your boundaries and people respect what you say can you please tell me how you do it?!

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Chickenkeev · 12/08/2023 18:24

They do, yes.

caramacyears · 12/08/2023 18:30

Men in particular, don't even hear the word boundaries in conversation with women. IMHO the only way to say no to them is to totally shut them out and close them down on and offline. Block, mute, delete, and go NC

HundredMilesAnHour · 12/08/2023 18:40

I've never had a problem with people not respecting my boundaries but I have a zero tolerance policy.

I suspect @learninghowtosetboundaries it will be harder for you to start with (as you're finding) as people who are not used to you having boundaries (or maintaining them) will continue to be disrespectful until they realise you're serious. But you do need to be serious. And I'm not convinced you are yet. I think you want to be but you're not there yet. For example, the family member rolling up in your home. You said no because you'd "just hoovered". Wrong answer. You don't allow smoking, that's why! I would have taken the roll-up out of his hand or told him to leave if he's ignored me. And I certainly wouldn't have let him back in again.

caramacyears · 12/08/2023 18:47

HundredMilesAnHour · 12/08/2023 18:40

I've never had a problem with people not respecting my boundaries but I have a zero tolerance policy.

I suspect @learninghowtosetboundaries it will be harder for you to start with (as you're finding) as people who are not used to you having boundaries (or maintaining them) will continue to be disrespectful until they realise you're serious. But you do need to be serious. And I'm not convinced you are yet. I think you want to be but you're not there yet. For example, the family member rolling up in your home. You said no because you'd "just hoovered". Wrong answer. You don't allow smoking, that's why! I would have taken the roll-up out of his hand or told him to leave if he's ignored me. And I certainly wouldn't have let him back in again.

So true

learninghowtosetboundaries · 12/08/2023 19:25

Thank you all for replying.
I am serious but I guess I back down too easily which I need to work on. I'm very conflict avoidant due to past trauma and I fear violence if they don't get their own way which I know is stupid because most people won't react violently but the fear is still there.

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Inauthentic · 12/08/2023 19:59

It seems like you were pretty clear and assertive, maybe it's not necessary you - it's them?

It can be difficult to enforce your boundaries when you are surrounded by twats.

learninghowtosetboundaries · 12/08/2023 20:14

Inauthentic · 12/08/2023 19:59

It seems like you were pretty clear and assertive, maybe it's not necessary you - it's them?

It can be difficult to enforce your boundaries when you are surrounded by twats.

@Inauthentic That is very true! Thank you 💐

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Babsthebookworm · 12/08/2023 20:46

I'm at the same stage as you. A fed up people pleasing doormat who has been trying to implement boundaries. Like you, it's not going well. People just do what they like and are still disrespectful.

I've cut off several "friends" in the last few years because I'm sick of being disrespected and taken for granted. Unfortunately I'm now being savagely vilified for being a bitch with massive commitment issues. It hurts and feels like I can't get anything right but I'd be lying if I said I missed any of the CFs.

learninghowtosetboundaries · 12/08/2023 20:54

I'm sorry you're in the same situation @Babsthebookworm
Same, I don't miss them and I am probably better off without them. But when it keeps happening I can't help but wonder if it's my fault and there's also the worry of ending up completely alone.

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Babsthebookworm · 12/08/2023 21:03

I've wondered if it's my fault too. I think that's the doormat in us making its presence known.

Being alone might not be as bad as keeping people around who are damaging to our peace of mind and self respect. I like to think of it as freeing up space and time for good things to come into my life.

Octosaurus · 12/08/2023 21:27

You need to let them walk out they're just testing your boundaries. And then finally they'll realise they were being idiots probably and come crawling back, or not, either way you'll be fine. You need to have more faith in yourself

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