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Friend hasn’t paid prescription charges for 10 years - what will happen?

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Kat19899 · 11/08/2023 19:37

Please be kind, this was stupid but unintentional and now is beside herself and remorseful.
She was on JSA around 10 years ago and entitled to free prescriptions when she set up her delivery for repeat prescriptions from the local pharmacy. She became more ill and was out of work for a couple of years, didn’t receive JSA or any benefits during that time. However she forgot to tell the pharmacy she wasn’t entitled to free prescriptions anymore and I guess with the stress/depression of being ill and the pharmacy never querying it she just forgot about it. The other day she got a doctor’s prescription at an appointment, paid for the item at the pharmacy like normal and had the sudden realisation she has not paid for 4+ items per month for about 10 years!

She is beside herself, feels awful at costing the NHS money and very stressed that she will go to court and get a criminal record or jail time. Is this likely to happen?? What should she do? I think her options are to call/write a letter telling the truth and offering to pay in full (it would wipe out her savings but she has the money), tell the pharmacy she is no longer eligible and buy a prescription prepayment certificate and hope no one questions it, or say nothing and hope for the best.
She said she does her repeats online and they get sent to the pharmacy automatically. I’m confused about how this can go unnoticed for so long. She’s willing to fully pay but every time the post comes she thinks it’s going to be a court summons.

OP posts:
BlossomCloud · 13/08/2023 16:04

LividHot · 13/08/2023 15:04

I had no idea medical exemptions expire.

I have a thyroid exemption: it's a lifelong condition and I genuinely assumed it was a lifelong exemption.

I've just checked my card (pharmacy NEVER asks to see it) and it expired in 2022. And you can't just renew it online, you have to "speak to your doctor" as if that's a quick and easy thing in this day and age.

But thanks, OP, because I would have genuinely not known I could be fined for the next however many years.

Same. I have Myasthenia Gravis, it's not curable, I had no idea I would have to reapply. It doesn't expire till 2027 so I guess I have to hope I remember!

BlossomCloud · 13/08/2023 16:04

LividHot · 13/08/2023 15:04

I had no idea medical exemptions expire.

I have a thyroid exemption: it's a lifelong condition and I genuinely assumed it was a lifelong exemption.

I've just checked my card (pharmacy NEVER asks to see it) and it expired in 2022. And you can't just renew it online, you have to "speak to your doctor" as if that's a quick and easy thing in this day and age.

But thanks, OP, because I would have genuinely not known I could be fined for the next however many years.

Same. I have Myasthenia Gravis, it's not curable, I had no idea I would have to reapply. It doesn't expire till 2027 so I guess I have to hope I remember!

Cerealkillerontheloose · 13/08/2023 19:31

Can I just point out.

an exemption certificate is different to a pre paid prescription charge. Two entirely different things.

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bruffin · 13/08/2023 21:28

Cerealkillerontheloose · 13/08/2023 19:31

Can I just point out.

an exemption certificate is different to a pre paid prescription charge. Two entirely different things.

I dont think anyone is confused on here

an exemption certificate lasts 5 years or until your 60 . Its gives free prescriptions for patients with certain conditions
A prepaid certificate is either 3 months or a year and costs roughly £10 a month to cover all prescriptions in that time period

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 21:45

bruffin · 13/08/2023 21:28

I dont think anyone is confused on here

an exemption certificate lasts 5 years or until your 60 . Its gives free prescriptions for patients with certain conditions
A prepaid certificate is either 3 months or a year and costs roughly £10 a month to cover all prescriptions in that time period

A medical exemption card only lasts five years even if you're under 60. You can only have free prescriptions with your medical condition if you have a valid medical exemption card (although they never ask to check mine). If you have one it is your responsibility to get it renewed when it expires, or you may get fined. - I did.

bruffin · 13/08/2023 21:49

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 21:45

A medical exemption card only lasts five years even if you're under 60. You can only have free prescriptions with your medical condition if you have a valid medical exemption card (although they never ask to check mine). If you have one it is your responsibility to get it renewed when it expires, or you may get fined. - I did.

I meant 5 years or less if you are 60 in that 5 years. I got mine when i was 59 so i only needed it for 6 months

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 21:56

This thread did remind me to go hunting for my card. Fortunately it's ok til December 24. I got caught out last time. I can't remember how much I was fined.

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 13/08/2023 22:16

NHSarah · 12/08/2023 20:32

@FadeAwayAndRadiate If she bothered to buy a prepayment certificate. She didn’t, so my figure stands. Perhaps you might like to prepay for a chill pill?

@NHSarah

But anyone and everyone can get 10 years worth of prescriptions for around £1000, (with the prepayment certificate!)

So no, the OP did NOT have £4500 worth of meds over 10 years. She had ten years worth of free prepayment certificates. And she would have paid around £1000 for the past 10 years worth of prepayment certificates, not £4500. Why are you struggling to grasp this?

Perhaps you might like to prepay for a calculator?

BlossomCloud · 13/08/2023 23:09

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 21:56

This thread did remind me to go hunting for my card. Fortunately it's ok til December 24. I got caught out last time. I can't remember how much I was fined.

Do they send a reminder?

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 13/08/2023 23:12

@BlossomCloud Yes, they send an email reminder for prepayment certificates one month before it's due. Smile

BlossomCloud · 13/08/2023 23:25

Ahh good @FadeAwayAndRadiate no way I will remember otherwise!

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 23:29

I didn't get a reminder. My first one expired 3 years ago and I think they sent postal reminders then rather than email & we'd moved house.

Housewife2010 · 13/08/2023 23:31

Sorry. I was talking about medical exemption cards rather than prepayment certificates.

NHSarah · 14/08/2023 00:20

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 13/08/2023 22:16

@NHSarah

But anyone and everyone can get 10 years worth of prescriptions for around £1000, (with the prepayment certificate!)

So no, the OP did NOT have £4500 worth of meds over 10 years. She had ten years worth of free prepayment certificates. And she would have paid around £1000 for the past 10 years worth of prepayment certificates, not £4500. Why are you struggling to grasp this?

Perhaps you might like to prepay for a calculator?

She had an exemption due to being on job seekers. She did not have a prepayment certificate. 4 x prescriptions per month = £38:60 per month x 12 = £463:20 x 10 = £4632. No prepayment certificate, no prepayment discount.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/08/2023 09:37

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 12/08/2023 16:44

@NHSarah · Yesterday 22:39

Her "forgetfulness" resulted in the NHS losing nearly £4,500 in income. Imagine if we all ”forgetful.” NHS services are already at their limit. I'm puzzled about how this situation unfolded. Every pharmacist serving me asks, without fail, if I pay for my prescriptions. If I had forgotten that I no longer qualify for free prescriptions, being asked would jog my memory. People living with chronic conditions often have to bear monthly prescription charges indefinitely. While prepaying reduces the cost, for many, shelling out £4,500 has forced them to make sacrifices. Let’s hope her memory improves.

Rubbish. It's just over a grand at the most! Prepayment certificates are £120-ish and were cheaper 7-10 years ago. NO-ONE would pay £4500 over 10 years for prescriptions. Stop being so melodramatic!

@Kat19899 Glad your mate has her issue sorted now Flowers And as I suspected, there is a statute of limitations.

But the point is, she she didn’t pay £4500 - she didn’t pay anything !! If you read the OPs post again, it says that she was on JSA ten years ago, which would have entitled her to free prescriptions for the period of time she claimed it - not the same thing as prepayment/exemption certificate as it’s not funded from the NHS. Once JSA stopped she was no longer entitled, but didn’t convey this to the pharmacy, so continued to have 4 items a month delivered without paying prescription charges. She only realised her mistake when she paid the charge for a prescription she picked up herself after a GP visit. So a lot more than a grand.

DanceWithTheBigBoysAgain · 14/08/2023 09:47

NHSarah · 14/08/2023 00:20

She had an exemption due to being on job seekers. She did not have a prepayment certificate. 4 x prescriptions per month = £38:60 per month x 12 = £463:20 x 10 = £4632. No prepayment certificate, no prepayment discount.

But if she had been paying for her prescriptions she'd have paid £111.60 a year (at todays rates) - so she's deprived the NHS of a thousand quid or so, not four thousand five hundred. There's no plausible way she'd have paid £450 a year.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/08/2023 10:07

FadeAwayAndRadiate · 13/08/2023 22:16

@NHSarah

But anyone and everyone can get 10 years worth of prescriptions for around £1000, (with the prepayment certificate!)

So no, the OP did NOT have £4500 worth of meds over 10 years. She had ten years worth of free prepayment certificates. And she would have paid around £1000 for the past 10 years worth of prepayment certificates, not £4500. Why are you struggling to grasp this?

Perhaps you might like to prepay for a calculator?

I think you need that calculator yourself !! Entitlement to free prescriptions is not the same thing as a pre-payment certificate. Her claim to JSA is what entitled her to free prescriptions, but only for the duration of the claim. She failed to tell the pharmacy when her claim ended, so for the last ten years she has continued to receive 4 meds a month free of charge, despite not being entitled. She only realised this after picking up a prescription in person after a doctors’ appointment, and paying for it. Why would you pay again if you were covered by a prepayment certificate ?

Rosscameasdoody · 14/08/2023 10:29

DanceWithTheBigBoysAgain · 14/08/2023 09:47

But if she had been paying for her prescriptions she'd have paid £111.60 a year (at todays rates) - so she's deprived the NHS of a thousand quid or so, not four thousand five hundred. There's no plausible way she'd have paid £450 a year.

But the fact remains that for ten years meds were provided free when she was neither entitled to free prescriptions or covered by a PPC, so the full prescription price would apply as well as a fine. So you’re right - it’s not £4500. More like £26500 - £22000 in fines plus the full cost of the prescriptions.

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