Electric Car No Driveway

[Squishybopbadobop]

Ourselves and the house we are attached to are the only ones on the street with no driveway so if we asked for electric charging points to be put outside our house, would it give us any right to park in the spaces outside our house (on the road) as we don't have a driveway? Presumably the council would only install them outside our houses as everyone else could install them on their driveways but not sure how this would work?

I’d also like to add that we have had our EV for almost 2 years now and I still love its kick-ass silent knight rider vibe to pieces. 😁

How much does it cost (roughly) to charge at a fast charge one rather than at home? It's really good to get so much experience of people who don't need to charge at home. I take it battery life isn't reduced like the suggest it is with a mobile phone by plugging and unplugging it to top up the battery? That may just be old phones though. It's helpful to see that there are workarounds if for whenever we do have to change so thanks again everyone.

Me too 😀

How long is a piece of string?

Last time we used a super rapid charger, so 10% to 80% in 15 minutes it cost £40, not great value for money, however it was a service station where diesel was nearly £2 a litre.

To charge to 80% at home it's about £4 but takes 6 hours if empty.

You should never charge to 100% ideally to protect the battery. I'll only charge to 100% if I've a full car and want to get to London and back without stopping.
Trickle charge is the way to go with EVs. Which then means you're only charging little and often. So if I know I'm going to Birmingham one day and Lincoln the next, despite my range covering that, I'd charge back to 80% at some point during the day.

Oh wow @JustFrustrated £40 vs 4?! I know its cheaper than diesel but an electric car costs significantly more to begin with so maybe not as justifiable as I thought.

@Squishybopbadobop is talking about the maximum you’d pay, you wouldn’t pay that on a regular basis.

any council installed chargers will be much much cheaper - and slower- but as pp said you’d likely just charge once a week unless you had very high mileage

my office car park has free chargers- could be worth asking your employer to install. Supermarket ones are on the cheap side too.

we have solar so when the sun shines the power goes straight into the car and we pay nothing at all for it. Obv we paid to a pay for the solar installation.

Until the infrastructure is in place do not waste money on an electric car that is not as green as the government wishes us to believe

You're very much picking and choosing what you read.

How often do you fill your car with premium diesel on a motorway services?

Because that's the equivalent.

We have an electric car and an terraced house and we do struggle with charge points either being busy or broken. The Shell charge point at Waitrose is broken about 75% of the time we visit. The McD instavolt is often busy - dd charges her EV at work.

@Lookjaz yes exactly and do people think these free chargers will remain
the goverment get huge anount if duty of petrol/diesel they will want that made up of electric eventually , but like they were free road tax but that changed
also for many many people they are just too expensive to begin with and lets see how kong they are on the road for , when the batteries pack up, and electric is not all green either than charges the car

@JustFrustrated I asked for a cost comparison because from everything I've read, relying on a charging point outside my house isn't feasible and neither is charging the car in a supermarket because I have shopping delivered and wouldn't tend to hang around anywhere else for long enough so would have to rely on a fast charger by the sounds of things but perhaps I've misunderstood.
I really don't understand when someone asks a question on Mumsnet about something that they are clearly ignorant about, how that invites unpleasant comments. I'm not picking and choosing anything, I'm trying to make sense of how it would work and perhaps misunderstanding certain things because I'm trying to read responses as and when they come in, around everything else going on. This should be a fairly incontentious, hypothetical topic that can remain civil and polite so thank you everyone for your responses, I've got as much information as I need should I need to make a quick decision about changing the car in the future and I hope everyone has a lovely Summer!

We stopped at services on the M42 last week, they were queuing for the Tesla charging points as every single one was occupied. And that's with electric vehicles being still a small proportion of vehicles on the road.

We need electric cars to ,mashup with autonomous cars. Then they can fuck off and charge themselves at night.

And then some genius will realise that having a car on a drive for 12 hours doing fuck all when it could be out and about making money before getting charged and returned for the morning is actually a business plan.

Obviously not in the UK where is seems there are about 100 millions people with unique reasons as to why it won't work for them,

But if we have learned one thing in the past, it's that mysteriously people find ways to make things work before they starve.

Ubers #1 business priority is to eliminate drivers from the model .... hence their interesting ... self driving cars.

My nearest one is 16 miles away, I never drive that way ( and I actually have no intention of buying an electric car 😊, no way can I afford one!)

Those with visual impairments, not so much.

See the RNIB's article here
https://www.rnib.org.uk/news/new-electric-vehicles-safety-milestone/

I’ve complained to the council about cables being run across the pavement. Either the cable is just loose which is a trip hazard, or the cable covers make the pavement too bumpy for wheelchair users.
How did the council respond? Did they take any action?
Not in our local authority. The blue badge number is painted on the road and on a sign.
Thats interesting, I haven’t seen that before. Which authority is it?
I can see that being problematic. Eg what if a blue badge visitor visits and you allow them to use your space. The numbers won’t match.

Mine is actually pretty noisy when it reverses

Not much use when it's going forward, which is most of the time.

London borough of Haringey, I posted a link upthread that will show you the full details. You’re correct about visitors, that’s just tough and is something you have to accept if you want the dedicated space. I can’t imagine, though, that it is all that common for a blue badge visitor to arrive at the same time that the blue badge resident is out, leaving the space free.

I can’t imagine, though, that it is all that common for a blue badge visitor to arrive at the same time that the blue badge resident is out, leaving the space free.
it popped into my mind because my friend has a blue badge for mobility problems and her mum looks after her children while she is at work. Her mum also has a mobility disability. In this scenario Nan uses the mum’s blue badge bay.
I wonder if other local authorities will start doing the same?

I know which one you’re talking about, I have queued there… for about 5 minutes. I’ve queued for longer for petrol.

but since I have had the EV I have on average spent far less time queuing/fuelling up overall than I ever did with an ICE car (not including when it charges while I sleep).

but since I have had the EV I have on average spent far less time queuing/fuelling up overall than I ever did with an ICE car (not including when it charges while I sleep).

But presumably that's because you have an at home charging option. Lots of people seem quick to recommend something for someone who has quite a different setup.

I queued for 5 minutes to get out the car park as the ev drivers waiting for the bays were blocking the car park...

@Swimbius
yes I agree there. EV works for our setup and I totally take on board it doesn’t for everyone. That said. There are phenomenal advances happening in terms of charging stations. In some (def not all) areas of the Uk they are springing up in car parks all over the place and in other areas lamppost Charging is becoming commonplace. Things will be vastly different five years down the line.

From speaking to friends with EVs it's actually getting worse at this point in this area. Demand is growing faster than capacity, the early adopters are finding that their workplace provided charging point now has to be shared! And public chargers that were once always free are now frequently at capacity. Capacity is still increasing but it's not keeping pace with demand.

The 360 cameras mean I am very unlikely to hit anyone even if they walk out in front of/behind me.