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If you're trying to cut out ultra processed foods...

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mibid · 06/08/2023 17:43

What do you tend to eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner?

Live alone with DS4 and trying to cut them out. We usually eat a lot of pasta.

Breakfast is usually eggs or some variation of oats with fruit, nuts, natural yoghurt etc.

Try to buy organic fruit but it's so expensive.

Going to buy a bread maker and hopefully start making my own mayo too.

I'd love to hear what others are doing.

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Harrythehappypig · 07/08/2023 09:18

Thanks, that makes more sense. What I had read before classed bacon and Parma ham as UPF. I see sausages are down as UPF but I don’t see why all types would be - there is a massive range in composition of sausages and some are full of all of weird stuff with weird casing.

The Waitrose No 1 chocolate bars don’t contain emulsifiers (at least the 90% cocoa one doesn’t).

M&S has pesto and sun dried tomatoes are without seed oils (I try to avoid). Have recently discovered how easy mayonnaise is to make which is pleasing me greatly.

Coffeeandcake12 · 07/08/2023 09:26

Lindt Excellence Dark 70% Cocoa Chocolate doesn't have emulsifiers in. Good for putting in cookies or cakes or just eating!

Oysterbabe · 07/08/2023 09:30

Harrythehappypig · 07/08/2023 09:18

Thanks, that makes more sense. What I had read before classed bacon and Parma ham as UPF. I see sausages are down as UPF but I don’t see why all types would be - there is a massive range in composition of sausages and some are full of all of weird stuff with weird casing.

The Waitrose No 1 chocolate bars don’t contain emulsifiers (at least the 90% cocoa one doesn’t).

M&S has pesto and sun dried tomatoes are without seed oils (I try to avoid). Have recently discovered how easy mayonnaise is to make which is pleasing me greatly.

I don't think all sausages are UPF, although I suspect most are. It just depends on the ingredients. I'm sure it's possible to buy quality ones without the additives.

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NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 07/08/2023 09:31

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 08:55

I started cutting them out before I'd even heard the phrase 'UPF' although we never had eaten it much.

All food you buy in the supermarkets is processed to a degree - none of it exists naturally as you buy it. So people who get snarky about cheese being processed, or beef being minced, or jars of passata etc don't really bother me. It's the ingredients I look at.

It's the UPF stuff that is the issue.

I don't always eat breakfast because I leave for work at 7 and don't have chance to eat until lunch. But, if I do, it tends to be scrambled eggs made with butter, eggs royale (without the muffin). That sort of thing.

Lunch would be salad and some protein (eg tuna mayonnaise) or reheated leftovers from the night before.

Dinner is cooked from scratch (or batch cooked and frozen) - chilli, bolognaise, meat/fish and veg/salad, curries. Etc. I'll buy a Thai red curry paste, for example, but there's one in sainsburys which is 'clean' in that the only ingredients are the ones you'd include if you were making it yourself - no added sugars or anything else you wouldn't put in yourself.

My daughters favourite is chicken thighs with skin or pork belly with broccoli and mushrooms cooked in a garlic, (full fat) creme fraiche and parmesan sauce.

We dont eat puddings generally but, if we do, we have whipped double cream and berries. Like an Eton Mess but without the meringue.

I make my own mayonnaise. Haven't eaten shop bought for years. It takes 5 mins, lasts for a fortnight and tastes much nicer.

I only eat (genuinely) healthy fats - eg olive oil, and animal fats eg butter, and lard. Never eat 'industrialised oils' such as sunflower, rapeseed or vegetable - cheap oils that were never intended for human consumption but they're cheap so UPF producers love it...

I never feel bloated any more, never have digestive issues, much more energy, sleep better, joint pain is gone, skin is better, never experience extremes of hunger (eg griping hunger pangs or feeling stuffed) and don't crave junk food either so I don't actually feel I'm missing out.

I listened to the Chris and Xand podcasts on it recently. One thing that really stood out to me was your body not recognising UPF as real food. Which is why you can eat a whole pizza to yourself, or feel hungry again half an hour after eating a takeaway, and can eat a whole tube of pringles without it ruining your appetite! People can generally eat a greater quantity of UPFs than they would the equivalent 'real' food. Something to do with them not triggering the same hormonal/brain responses as 'real' food. It's factory created food facsimiles that look like food but aren't. Your body just doesn't know want to do with it. It fills your belly but that's about it

I've lost around 3 stone over the last few years without trying by cutting out UPFs and cutting down on carbs too. It's not a calorie defect that achieved it either. I used to calorie restrict (1200 cals) and struggled to lose weight but now eat around 1600-1800 calories a day and I'm the same weight now that I was 20 years ago.

Please could you share your mayonnaise recipe?

Thank you

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 09:33

Oysterbabe · 07/08/2023 09:30

I don't think all sausages are UPF, although I suspect most are. It just depends on the ingredients. I'm sure it's possible to buy quality ones without the additives.

Some butchers will make them for you. I suspect they're more expensive than the very worst cheap ones (eg 56% pork or whatever they are) but probably not much more than the better quality supermarket sausages.

I don't eat them often but, when i do, I look for ones that are 97% pork. Simply because there can only be 3% of crap in them!

Oysterbabe · 07/08/2023 09:34

Actually I'm trying to find some non-upf sausages and it's proving challenging, so maybe they all are.

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 09:38

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 07/08/2023 09:31

Please could you share your mayonnaise recipe?

Thank you

Of course.

150 ml oil (like I say, I use mild and light olive oil (any more than that tastes horrible!) or almond oil.

I egg

Apple cider vinegar (I use the one with the mother - really cheap in Lidl!) and dijon mustard to taste. Start with about 1/2 tsp of each.

Use all ingredients at room temperature other wise it doesn't thicken properly.

I use a stick blender. Put all the ingredients in a jar just wider than the blender head. Don't move the blender around. Put it at the bottom of the jar and whisk. You can hear when it's thickened so lift the blender slightly and repeat until its all done. You can add more ACV and mustard when it's thick to get the desired taste. Really simple!

KnittedCardi · 07/08/2023 09:40

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 09:02

Why are you making your own mayo? Just interested because the one I buy has exactly the same ingredients you would use to make at home, so why bother?

I believe there's a Hunter Gatherer one that is clean but, as a pp said, lot of them contain rapeseed oil because it's cheap. Clean mayonnaise is expensive - it's cheaper to make it yourself 👍🏻

I use almond oil or light and mild olive oil as a base for mine.

Your oils are the same as rapeseed in terms of UPF. No difference at all. In fact rapeseed is higher in nutrients and lower in fats. Only cold pressed virgin olive oil is lower processed.

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 09:46

KnittedCardi · 07/08/2023 09:40

Your oils are the same as rapeseed in terms of UPF. No difference at all. In fact rapeseed is higher in nutrients and lower in fats. Only cold pressed virgin olive oil is lower processed.

Industrialised seed oils aren't good for you.

The equivalent to butter vs margarine.

I'm not aiming for low fat.

Worldgonecrazy · 07/08/2023 09:52

Thanks for sharing the mayo recipe. Is a stick blender o w if this blenders you use for soup/ purées etc?

My zero UPF menu today will be:

porridge oats with honey made with full fat milk. All organic / local.

Sourdough granary made at local bakery with feta and avocado

Pasta with roasted courgette, tomato, mushrooms and garlic with mozzarella.

Snack is nuts with 100% chocolate drops.

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 10:02

I use a stick blender. I think the method is different if you use a bigger blender - but you'd be able to find out by googling.

I remember being put off making mayo for years when it was all about adding the oil slowly! So I've only done it stick way!

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 07/08/2023 10:19

Thanks @GreyCarpet for the recipe - looks very doable! How long does it keep in the fridge?

WILTYjim · 07/08/2023 11:38

@mibid

I need to find it first! In the midst of a big declutter.

ladeluge · 07/08/2023 12:05

applewood87 · 06/08/2023 20:45

Would you mind sharing the recipe for the soda bread please?

I make both white and wholemeal versions.

Both methods are the same. The most important thing to ensure a soft tasty bread is "DO NOT KNEAD!"

I use this quantity for a decent size loaf, and it freezes well. I don't measure, just use cups. It is very easy to make and tastes delicious.

3 cups plain flour (for plain version), or 1.5 cups plain, and 1.5 cups wholemeal flour for the brown bread version.

1 teaspoon bicarb (bread soda)
1/2 teaspoon salt, 1 teaspoon sugar (sugar can be omitted).
1.5 cups natural Greek yogurt
4 tablespoons whole milk (can add more if dough is too dry)

I don't sift, Just put flour, salt, sugar, bicarb in a bowl

Mix yogurt and milk together

Add to flour mix.

Bring together with wooden spoon. Do not overwork the dough, bring it into a ball with hands when it is just together.

Remove dough to floured tray. Shape into a round or square, again GENTLY, just pat it into shape. Place a deep cross in the dough (to let the fairies out!). Brush top with milk if you want, I don't bother.

200d for 40 minutes. It is done when it sounds hollow if tapped on the bottom.

If you don't like hard crusts, place a clean tea towel on top of loaf as soon as it is out of the oven. That will keep crust soft.

GreyCarpet · 07/08/2023 14:01

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 07/08/2023 10:19

Thanks @GreyCarpet for the recipe - looks very doable! How long does it keep in the fridge?

About a fortnight 👍🏻

Notcontent · 07/08/2023 14:42

I think there is a lot of confusion about what UPF is. There is a lot of alarmist nonsense about how all food is processed and so UPF is unavoidable. That’s just not true. Once you are aware of it, it’s really not that hard to avoid and it certainly doesn’t involve making everything from scratch. E.g most pasta is UPH - unless you buy supermarket filled pasta (e.g. tortellini) which often has highly processed ingredients and is’t very nice anyway.

I think the one staple item that is a bit problematic is bread, as most supermarket bread is UPH. You can buy non UPH bread but it is harder to find.

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