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How do things like slimming world "get away with" using their members as free labour?

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00100001 · 02/08/2023 10:03

So, you have the leader who is making money, bit the "social team" are paying members of the group that are volunteering their time for the leader.

I mean, maybe some leaders give them free membership? Or a free magazine or whatever?

But it's crazy that the business model is one paid employee and half a dozen 'volunteers'.

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Grannyknowsbest · 02/08/2023 10:50

Slimming world is a cult.
Been scientifically proven not to work.
Biggest money making scam there is.
Nutritionist agree

KateJohns · 02/08/2023 10:51

Every charity shop is run the same way ime.

But I can't be too cross, people that volunteer do so voluntarily. So *shrug

Guineapigwoes · 02/08/2023 10:52

Social team don’t pay though

usernother · 02/08/2023 10:57

I thought if you were part of the social team you didn't pay?

Guineapigwoes · 02/08/2023 11:02

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FlickyCrumble · 02/08/2023 11:04

They get free class membership and tbh in my experience they are usually friends of team leader.?

homeforme · 02/08/2023 11:07

I went to SW a few times many years ago and the 'consultant' always put the social team through before anyone else, both weigh and pay.

Absolute scam that preys on the vulnerable women who feel a little bit important by having that job to do.

00100001 · 02/08/2023 13:56

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What makes you think I know nothing about it?

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00100001 · 02/08/2023 13:57

Grannyknowsbest · 02/08/2023 10:50

Slimming world is a cult.
Been scientifically proven not to work.
Biggest money making scam there is.
Nutritionist agree

Which scientists have proven it not to work?

Please let me know the research, I'm very interested.

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DemelzaandRoss · 02/08/2023 14:05

If you follow SW correctly, it certainly does work.
It’s basically healthy eating.
Some people prefer to socialise with others who are on a similar weight loss journey.
My SW Consultant is extremely business like, kind & empathetic.
She turns up for an hour & a half each week, texts us individually through the week. No black pointy hats to be seen.

Kinneddar · 02/08/2023 14:10

I helped out at WW when I went to classes. I got weighed first, didn't pay my membership & got a discount on anything I bought. It was brilliant value

Thegrumpycup · 02/08/2023 14:10

The weigh in and till helpers do need to pay. I used to go to a class where the consultant got sacked for putting her social team through as free every week.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 02/08/2023 14:24

A cult 🙄

It's healthy eating and it works.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 02/08/2023 14:31

I've never done slimming world but I've seen it work for two friends who had tried other things without success. One of them is quite involved in it (maybe on a "social team"?) and I think that involvement is really what appeals to her. Nothing to get worked up about.

CandyflossKaren · 02/08/2023 14:33

As e very one says, helpers don't pay

So get rewarded that way

Did you not know this OP?

nonman · 02/08/2023 14:33

I actually think paying is part of the process, if you pay you are personally invested in following the diet

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 02/08/2023 14:34

Most diets work but you have to keep going. Of course it's going to stop working once you eat like you used to.

MillWood85 · 02/08/2023 14:46

Ah yes, the helpers.... aka mean girls swarming around the Queen Bee.

ShinyPikachu · 02/08/2023 15:01

I used to be on the SW social team and we still had to pay like everyone else. No freebies at all. The consultant was a friend of mine which is why I helped out, I left when she did.

SW did work for me but so does calorie counting and intermittent fasting, both of which I've had better results with and doesn't cost me the money that SW did.

PurpleBananaSmoothie · 02/08/2023 15:02

Slimming world does work. Temporarily. It also creates disordered eating, creating far more problems long term than you had before. I lost 6 stone on slimming world in less than a year because I’m very good at following rules. All of that is back on now. Plus more.

It’s a pyramid scheme. Leaders actually make very little money and are body shamed into losing weight. My consultant had great membership numbers but would always be told she wasn’t meeting her weight target. She’d lost weight previously on SW (several times actually) but then put it back on. They are told to flog the SW merchandise - magazines, high fi bars, slimming world meals at Iceland. They have to calibrate their scales, but flyers to drop through letterboxes to drum up more business. And rewarded with holidays and little awards if they’ve kept in their weight range and sales range.

Something that demonises mashed up bananas and avocado but you can eat as many of their own ready meals as you like is not healthy eating. Or encouraging people not to eat on weigh day, then binge when they get home, which was common in my group. I was continuing to lose weight by exceeding my syn allowance through eating avocado, nuts, seeds, honey. And some chocolate. There is a complete lack of knowledge about how weight loss works, with the same old shit about muscle weighing more than fat. 1lb of fat weighs the same as 1lb of muscle but muscle is leaner so has less volume - you look thinner if you replace the fat with muscle but you can still weigh the same. Yet constantly the muscle weighs more than fat was trotted out, making people scared to go to the gym. No acknowledgement at all that weight includes water and so your weight will naturally vary through the month as you will hold more water at certain times in your cycle. Given its member base is predominantly women it really should know this. It probably does but doesn’t share it. Instead it works on praising you when you have a big “loss” and making you reflect what you did wrong to have a “gain”. If someone had a big gain, the consultant would blame a night out or a birthday meal out. One meal doesn’t cause a big gain. Restricting your eating and then cracking and binge eating does cause a big gain.

To answer your question OP, they promise you weight loss like I achieved. So they have a lot of hopeful people clinging to them. These people will have some good loses, maybe even made it to target but they’ll have seen someone in group lose loads and make it to target so even if they don’t personally manage it they’ll have seen someone firsthand and cling to that, hoping it could be them. They ignore all the negative aspects like people making fucking desserts out of weetabix or being told to go easy on holiday, not to enjoy themselves because it’ll undo all the progress they’ve made. When actually they restrict so much on holiday and don’t see a loss, or big enough loss, and are distraught and go out and binge. SW promises people who fee shit about themselves an answer, a hopeful future. It develops a mentality of needing each other to lose weight under the guise of sharing recipes and supporting each other but actually you’re just creating an environment that normalises disordered eating. You’re told that the more involved you are the better your weight loss will be. The social team are often rewarded with free membership but they continue to do it because being more involved will guarantee them more success.

spurs4ever · 02/08/2023 15:06

I used to be a consultant and the social team don't get free membership. If the consultant does that then ultimately she will be paying out of her own pocket. The group can't run without the social team and yes they get weighed first obviously but that's not really a perk. I used to give my team a copy of the new magazine and samples of new Hi-Fi bars when they came out (paid for by me) but they are a great support to the consultant.

PretendUsername · 02/08/2023 15:13

Excellent post @PurpleBananaSmoothie , you really nailed it. I spent years doing SW and WW and both of them normalised disordered eating, encouraged excessive restriction (not eating at all on weigh day) and resulted in binge eating. I had treatment for Bulimia and my psychologist hated slimming clubs!

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 02/08/2023 15:14

Something that demonises mashed up bananas and avocado but you can eat as many of their own ready meals as you like is not healthy eating. Or encouraging people not to eat on weigh day, then binge when they get home, which was common in my group

But it doesn't demonise it, rules are to syn a mashed banana as it's really easy to eat more than one if you make them into smoothies or bake with them. Any fruit that isn't whole and is mashed or blitzed isn't good as it releases sugar in a big hit - ask your dentist if they recommend smoothies. Nothing wrong with avacados but they're high in calories so you would watch how much you eat on any diet.

I suppose the SW meals are pushed at group, it's a business after all. I just do it on line and so bypass all that. If anyone is advising you not to eat it doesn't sound like they're very good consultants.

Done properly it's just a healthy eating plan, low fat and low sugar, plenty of veggies and a few treats.

theyareonlynoodlesmichael · 02/08/2023 15:16

Slimming World absolutely gave me disordered eating. I was taken age THIRTEEN by my chronically dieting mum and aunt. I was probably only half a stone 'overweight' tops. Fucking muller lights and chicken dry baked in an oven with no skin, weetabix and skimmed milk.

And then when I lost weight I would be given a large bar of galaxy as a reward.

Viviennemary · 02/08/2023 15:17

I assume they dont pay. Most of them enjoy it chatting to people. The raffle and donations of food for slimmer of the week is more annoying. Why do they want to make even more money.