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Which financial group are you

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askmeonemoretime · 29/07/2023 08:55

WHICH have divided the UK population into six broad groups around the cost of living crisis.
Which do you fit into?

  1. 9.2 million members of the drained and desperate group – who often skip meals and one of whom said “it feels like I’m existing instead of living”
  1. The anxious and at risk are much more likely to have borrowed money to maintain basic living standards than to have cut back.

Six in 10 of the anxious and at risk group have increased their debt in the last six months – the highest among all groups. They are also more than twice as likely as the rest of the UK population to have used buy-now-pay-later schemes. Anxious and at risk group are typically earning £20,000 to £45,000, are aged 18 to 34, have children, work and rent their home.
Half of them said they worry that they or other members of their household aren’t eating healthily enough, have increased anxiety and are getting more distant from their friends.

  1. Cut off by cutbacks” have seen their social life “massively impacted”, straining relationships and leaving them feeling more lonely and isolated. Their primary concerns for the future include feeling increasingly isolated from family and friends.
  1. Relatively unaffected by the crisis are the “fretting about the future” cohort. They are often aged over 55 and own their homes outright. They have bought cheaper products but around half say they have enjoyed spending more time at home.
  1. Looking out for loved ones - personally unaffected, but worry about friends and family and often giving them a helping hand.
  1. Affluent and apathetic - think people should stop complaining and just get on with it.
OP posts:
pointythings · 29/07/2023 09:31

Group 5, I have three young adults who still need support from me and I worry about friends and family (and provide what support I can).

gogomoto · 29/07/2023 09:31

None of them, number 5 is closer but don't personally know anyone struggling enough to need help. Pretty financially savvy here including the young adults, they live with us rent free! I do care about others but think that quite a lot of the issues people face are due to their own choices rather than wider issues, I say this as a trained debt counsellor. If we could do one thing for our young people in the future it is to teach how compound interest worked, and also (second thing) to anticipate the unexpected eg the amount of clients who say I had enough money but then my car failed mot for tyres ... well that was highly predictable, they need replacing periodically, explaining they need to set aside money for these expenses rather than buying new clothes isnt a message they want to hear ( nor do I say that) but as I have all their statements I can see why they gave cash flow issues, 90% of my clients it's about budgeting a small income rather than not having enough

Dashel · 29/07/2023 09:32

4ish, under 50 no mortgage or money worries but concerned about pension performance. Still saving as much as possible in our pension pots but have always been fairly thrifty which is why we don’t have a mortgage. But have holidays this year.

No DC and no one that I’m close too needing financial help, but I’m concerned for others in general.

UrsulaIsMyQueen · 29/07/2023 09:32

None of those really. 3 is the closest, in that we are not worrying about paying the bills but are having to cut back on ‘luxuries’. However we didn’t have a social life anyway, due to having a disabled child and no childcare, so we’re not cutting back on social activities. Instead, we’re cutting back on the things that made our lives mainly stuck at home with a disabled child more tolerable, such as nice food, media subscription services etc.

Rainbow1901 · 29/07/2023 09:33

Probably between 4 and 5.
We are mortgage free so that relieves us of one worry but I was made redundant last July and started looking after grandchildren for various AC's as they were having money issues. I worked for local government so was able to take my pension early - but still have 4 years before State pension kicks in. DH is on long term sick but has income from ESA and other pensions and he gets his State Pension at the end of this year and we have been waiting two years for LPPA to pay him his work pension!! So we have sufficient money coming in and no luxuries and very few treats but have the anticipation that our income will at some point increase but then probably so will the cost of everything else!!
With hindsight, I should probably have looked for another job as we do have debts which we are servicing and gradually paying off. We look after the GCs for free but seeing as they seem to be able to afford holidays despite money issues - is it us that is enabling them to do so? Maybe they should pay Nursery Fees!
If I went back to work for a year or so, we could be completely worry free plus I hadn't realised the impact on my mental health by not working. I do miss the camaraderie of colleagues and just getting out of the house! This seems to be fairly common topic with other grandparents who I see at Playgroups etc but we all want to help our families.

linelgreen · 29/07/2023 09:33

Between 5 and 6 - I do think some people who complain they are struggling make poor choices and prioritise the wrong things. There are some who will still smoke and drink yet claim they can't afford to put food on the table. My employer once arranged some volunteering opportunities where we went to a charity that supported unemployed and low income families where the idea was we would help with creating CV's and giving interview practice as well as budgeting help and after 2 visits I gave up as many simply did not want to engage with the help being offered.

TrundleWheel76 · 29/07/2023 09:34

4 and 5.

We're fine, no mortgage, lots of money in investments, more than one property, plus some land.

But I do worry about family members, one with a mortgage, one renting. Plus I do worry about our future too. Despite being financially secure I have little faith in the NHS and care system if either of us becomes unwell or disabled. I'm assuming that we will pay for private care but that is extremely expensive and not always possible to source.

I am also very angry about how decades of government policies have (atvleast partly) led to this appalling situation for many people.

khakitrousers · 29/07/2023 09:34

gallop17 · 29/07/2023 09:29

Not sure where we are. Need a head-in-the-sand group for people ok for now but who may be stuffed when their fixed rate is up in 2 years’ time. (I oscillate between this and saving madly to avoid this).

Yeah this is my group Grin (well only if rates go over 7%, I stressed tested to 7%, then put my head back in the sand!)

This is us as well.

5childrenand · 29/07/2023 09:35

gallop17 · 29/07/2023 09:20

I'm not sure any of them fit us really, I would say closest is maybe 4 "fretting over the future" we are not mortgage free 55+ though, still a young family with a sizeable mortgage, but with an income that can ride out the current situation, mindful we are not immune and if interest rates rise above 7% then we will need to start making adjustments. Wouldn't say we have adjusted our lifestyles or what we buy too much yet either, but mindful we may need to if it escalated.

Yes this for us too at the moment. Haven’t cut back yet but next year when our fixed rate ends things will be different again.

bonzaitree · 29/07/2023 09:35

Affluent but defo not apathetic. We’re helping my nieces who are early 20s with bits and bobs including using our connections to get work for one of them.

AuntieMarys · 29/07/2023 09:35
  1. Own home, semi retired. Have option to downsize and have £200,000 to play with, which we will do over next 2 years.
Dh works FT and will go PT In 2 years at 66.
Doggymummar · 29/07/2023 09:37

I'm 5 but only cos I live day to day. Over 55 private renting no savings. Will work until I die but I love my job so that's no problem.

Bananarepublic · 29/07/2023 09:38

Catspyjamas17 · 29/07/2023 09:07

None of the above. More like 4. but I am younger and not "happy to be more at home" or giving more of my money to energy suppliers and banks. I'd rather spend it elsewhere in the economy, and I'm also fucking angry at the bunch of corrupt incompetents running the country whom I certainly did not vote for.

Apart from the age, as I am older, this completely resonates. I don't want to give more money to energy suppliers or multinational companies that pay no tax in the Uk (small hot chocolate at £4.10 yesterday FFS).

I want to pay tax for better public services and I think we all should. It wouldn't cover the lowest earners, and people on higher tax thresholds would pay more but we would at least have functioning public services. I'd like to have politicians who didn't see public life as an opportunity for enrichment. Boris Johnson and Liz Truss I'm looking at you (she could have turned down the special allowance for being a disastrous PM for five minutes but chose not to).

gallop17 · 29/07/2023 09:38

Although on reflection whilst I say we haven't made cutbacks, one thing I have done that has been directly related to CoL (mortgage rates specifically) is to go for a promotion I didn't particularly want in a new organisation, I was intending to stay in my role for a few years, but was mindful of our mortgage in 2025 did pursue the next jump up. So I did that rather than make cut backs.

Aposterhasnoname · 29/07/2023 09:40

We’re fine, and so are all our friends/family, but it’s unfair to say we’re group six because we have a huge amount of empathy for people who are struggling and do what we can to help, donating to food banks, paying for items on Facebook market place for people that want them etc.

LittleBearPad · 29/07/2023 09:43

Aposterhasnoname · 29/07/2023 09:40

We’re fine, and so are all our friends/family, but it’s unfair to say we’re group six because we have a huge amount of empathy for people who are struggling and do what we can to help, donating to food banks, paying for items on Facebook market place for people that want them etc.

I agree.

The group 6 description sounds sociopathic hence why I think it’s a minority of people.

It’s possible to be affluent with a social conscience.

Brk · 29/07/2023 09:44

Sigh. Those are very unpleasant categories from Which, clearly designed to stoke resentment and class divisions. I wonder why they’ve chosen that phrasing.

No one is unaffected, everyone has less ability to buy things than they did.

Hoppinggreen · 29/07/2023 09:45

None of those

glittereyelash · 29/07/2023 09:46

Probably 5. I'm in my late 30s. We were lucky we got a mortgage before all the price hikes so are comfortable enough but have family who are struggling.

watersprites · 29/07/2023 09:48
  1. Not in that age bracket but I think most people who still need to work & have dc would be worried about the future despite not being currently impacted.
Shoesonthefloor · 29/07/2023 09:48

None, over 55 with a huge mortgage and like awake worrying. Which category is that exactly? We don't all fit into near pigeonholes

Shoesonthefloor · 29/07/2023 09:48

Neat

ActDottie · 29/07/2023 09:50

4 we are in our thirties though but the only reason we aren’t part of the anxious group is because our mortgage is fixed for another 4+ years at 2.56%

HarryBlackberry1 · 29/07/2023 09:50

Currently 4, moving to 3 when my dd goes to university in a month or two. Not sure how I'll make ends meet.

Babyroobs · 29/07/2023 09:50

Probably number 4. No mortgage and two earners but do have multiple young adult kids who need help through Uni which is costly. Before anyone says they need jobs, well they've been trying all summer so far and nothing ! It would be lovely if they could find part time jobs to help.