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Moving back to the UK

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ScottishSauerkraut · 22/07/2023 21:39

Hoping to ask for opinions / advice / experience on this as right now, I'm completely stuck between two places.
I've name changed as this will likely have lots of identifying details.

I'm from Scotland, DH is German. 2 children (3 years old and 6 months), live in the south of Germany. I've been across there permanently now for the last 7 years and I love lots about it. Never thought I'd contemplate moving back to the UK but here I am, one week into a 4 week stay visiting my family and wanting to move back. Why? Some reasons...

  • I miss the people. How friendly everyone is over here. Chatting to you at the shop, helping on the flight when my toddler threw up, generally friendliness.
  • I miss the weather. I don't like the heat. I love the cold. I'm in my element right now with 16 degrees after coming from 34.
  • big one: I miss my family and friends, which was never really a big deal as I came back a lot but now with two kids/COVID lockdowns, I'm not back as much and I miss them. I'm realising I'm lonely in Germany (I've never had an issue making friends but at the moment, I'm having so much trouble just meeting people / making friends). My family dote on my boys too and it would be nice for them to grow up with family around (my mum, my dad, stepmum, my auntie, my sister and my brother all do their best to be involved as they can long distance and when we visit). It's already been mentally lifting being around them again.
  • I have a master's in history and would have a better chance at getting a good job here or use it as an avenue to go somewhere else - journalism or law. (history degrees are basically useless in Germany).

Why not?

  • German lifestyle - we live not far from the Alps and it's such a lovely area to go hiking and get outside. I love how outdoorsy Germans are and it rubs off on me. I'm a healthier person in Germany in terms of food / exercise, not as many ready meals / processed food there. It's different in terms of food.
  • higher quality of life (e.g. kids have a paediatrician who they see the same day we call them up, you can self refer to specialist doctors and be seen pretty quickly, streets very clean, education fantastic and higher education is free)
  • brexit. Getting DH over even with 2 degrees and 7 years experience in his field would be difficult and expensive.

Basically, I love both countries and wish I could mix and match 😅

Has anyone else felt stuck like this? What did you do? How did it turn out?
If you've never found yourself in this position, hypothetically what would you do?

I managed to get German citizenship with the brexit nonsense (I'm a dual citizen now)so I'd always be able to go back.

Thanks all

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ScottishSauerkraut · 26/07/2023 12:32

Moomindroll · 26/07/2023 10:42

You’re so right - it is a risk - it took me a year to get something after we moved back - I can’t pass public sector interviews and ended up having to change sectors entirely (because I hadn’t done my homework) - hence my work based paranoia.

Good luck with it, whichever way you decide!

Thank you! And thanks for sharing your experience, sorry it was so difficult at first coming back. It's something that worries me too and why I feel stuck between the two countries right now

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ScottishSauerkraut · 26/07/2023 12:35

DownNative · 26/07/2023 11:10

@biedrona means there's a limited number of places and funding by the SG is, therefore, capped.

"Scottish-domiciled applicants are being refused a university place"

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/opinion/4611130/scotland-university-places-capped-chris-deerin-opinion/

The single biggest issue in Scotland that dominates all others to the point of neglection is the constitutional question, i.e., IndyRef2.

Reform Scotland are one of many calling for an end to uni place caps to open uni places more widely to Scottish domiciled applicants. In other words, "free" tuition will have to be scrapped.

Thank you. This is very helpful and something I'll make sure to look at properly when we are back home in Germany and researching it all.
I did also say in my op though that the free higher education in Germany was one reason I would be reluctant to move. Even if my children were able to qualify for the free tuition in Scotland, sending them to university in the UK would be more expensive than in Germany.
Lots to think about

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ScottishSauerkraut · 26/07/2023 12:39

I'm not really sure what the "rosy" comment is all about but I certainly don't have a rosy view of Scotland or else I'd be planning to come back tomorrow. I'm aware how hard things are here right now. I'm just wondering if it's going to be worth it to take a risk with all that if it meant coming back to be around my family.

I appreciate the helpful insights/opinions so far, whether good or bad. I think I'm going to try just enjoy the next few weeks I'm here and put it out of my mind for now. I feel quite muddled about it all and don't want to spend the whole time letting this consume my thoughts when we can push it back to talk about it together quietly back in Germany.

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Anylurk · 12/01/2024 21:12

Hi OP, did you make a decision in the end? I am also living abroad and extremely homesick, but worried about the difficulties of moving back....

ScottishSauerkraut · 30/06/2024 19:12

@Anylurk sorry, I never saw your comment! I was re-reading through this as I'm back seriously thinking about moving across. We decided last year to just wait it out as I was struggling with ppd a bit. But this summer, I'm doing much better and still want to move back so we are discussing it all this week. My reluctance is due to cost of living, my son being settled here even at 4😅 and healthcare.
How are you getting on? Where are you living, also EU?

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